Attachment 154182 Details for Bug 215722 – Record of IRC chat about this bug on #postfix

Record of IRC chat about this bug on #postfix

irc-chat-postfix.txt (text/plain), 5.36 KB, created by Matěj Cepl on 2007-05-04 22:31:39 UTC

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>kvÄ 04 23:41:06 <mcepl>	Hi, is there anybody capable enough of internals of postfix to have some clue about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215722 -- why in the world postfix goes to /boot?
>kvÄ 04 23:43:18 <xpoint>	mcepl, redhat
>kvÄ 04 23:43:32 <mcepl>	xpoint: yes, and?
>kvÄ 04 23:43:46 <xpoint>	postfix is not doing this
>kvÄ 04 23:44:43 <mcepl>	xpoint: OK, let me be sure about what you are saying -- the fact that postfix tries to open /boot, /home, /tmp is in your opinion result of RedHat-specific patch?
>kvÄ 04 23:44:59 <xpoint>	yes
>kvÄ 04 23:45:13 <xpoint>	could be selinux ?
>kvÄ 04 23:45:36 <mcepl>	no, SELinux *detects* this behavior, it doesn't do it!
>kvÄ 04 23:45:55 <mcepl>	there is no way, how SELinux will make any program to go to /boot
>kvÄ 04 23:46:25 <mcepl>	sorry, for exclamation mark -- that's probably unnecessary
>kvÄ 04 23:47:29 <xpoint>	point is that its redhat, postfix sources dont do anything in boot
>kvÄ 04 23:47:41 ---	_gAri- is now known as gAri-
>kvÄ 04 23:49:56 <mcepl>	xpoint: are you sure? you reject as a possible explanation https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215722#c9 ?
>kvÄ 04 23:50:15 <mcepl>	(or that this could be in the upstream postfix?)
>kvÄ 04 23:53:02 <sysmonk>	mcepl: it does a getattr /boot ?
>kvÄ 04 23:53:10 <sysmonk>	or tries to OPEN the /boot ?
>kvÄ 04 23:54:25 <sysmonk>	mcepl: do you have /boot as a partition, or it's just a subfolder of / ?
>kvÄ 04 23:54:44 <mcepl>	I got in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=145732 only getattr / but some other user reported getattr on /boot, /home, and /tmp
>kvÄ 04 23:54:52 <mcepl>	sysmonk: partition
>kvÄ 04 23:55:03 <sysmonk>	mcepl: and /home and /tmp are partitions too, right?
>kvÄ 04 23:55:10 <mcepl>	only /home
>kvÄ 04 23:55:56 *	sysmonk ponders
>kvÄ 04 23:57:23 <mcepl>	sysmonk: take a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=141261 (I think it should be grokable even for non-RH guy, grep on getattr)
>kvÄ 04 23:57:29 <sysmonk>	ok, just a guess, postfix doesn't queue mails if the partition where the queue dir ir has less than SOME_CONFIG_PARAM
>kvÄ 04 23:57:36 <mcepl>	sysmonk: and of course, I have no clue about partitions of that other guy
>kvÄ 04 23:57:38 <sysmonk>	so that it wouldn't fill up the space
>kvÄ 04 23:58:14 <sysmonk>	so, just a guess, that it could take the info about all the partitions ...
>kvÄ 04 23:58:18 <mcepl>	sysmonk: could you switch off this test (even with possibly fatal results for user)?
>kvÄ 04 23:59:27 <mcepl>	sysmonk: curl 'https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=141261' | grep getattr | less
>kvÄ 05 00:00:09 <mcepl>	but consider also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=215722#c3 -- some of these were fixed 
>kvÄ 05 00:01:00 <sysmonk>	mcepl: too much stuff to read ;P
>kvÄ 05 00:01:02 <sysmonk>	lol ;)
>kvÄ 05 00:01:10 *	sysmonk is lasy
>kvÄ 05 00:01:34 <mcepl>	sysmonk: sorry, I am employed as a bugmaster and forgetting that people are commonly not reading hundred bugs a day ;-)
>kvÄ 05 00:02:06 <sysmonk>	mcepl: just that it's 1am here
>kvÄ 05 00:02:23 <sysmonk>	and i'm after 9 hours of work and 3 hours of studdies
>kvÄ 05 00:02:26 <mcepl>	where is "here"? it's midnight here (Prague)
>kvÄ 05 00:02:28 <sysmonk>	and few hours of walking in the city
>kvÄ 05 00:02:36 <sysmonk>	mcepl: lithuania
>kvÄ 05 00:02:43 <sysmonk>	not far :)
>kvÄ 05 00:02:49 <mcepl>	I see -- go to bed, man, and thanks.
>kvÄ 05 00:03:53 <sysmonk>	i'm looking at the config params, i can't see anything to disable it
>kvÄ 05 00:04:01 <sysmonk>	With Postfix versions 2.0 and earlier, a queue_minfree value of zero means there is no minimum required amount of free space.
>kvÄ 05 00:04:25 <sysmonk>	and with >2.1, if queue_minfree is 0, it uses 1.5*$message_size_limit
>kvÄ 05 00:04:32 <sysmonk>	so, kinda, no way to turn it off :)
>kvÄ 05 00:04:39 <sysmonk>	atleast i don't see any
>kvÄ 05 00:05:04 <sysmonk>	and, by the way, i didn't say it is REAALY the reason, it's just a first thing i thought of
>kvÄ 05 00:05:21 <mcepl>	sysmonk: OK, I will paste this log to the bug, can I?
>kvÄ 05 00:05:35 <mcepl>	(hopefully, maintainer will consider that)
>kvÄ 05 00:06:23 <mcepl>	sysmonk: but still -- why does it go to ALL partitions, not only the one with /var?
>kvÄ 05 00:06:39 <sysmonk>	mcepl: i dunno, it's just a guess
>kvÄ 05 00:07:35 <mcepl>	OK, let's call it a day (or night ;-)). Thanks a lot.
>kvÄ 05 00:08:03 <sysmonk>	btw, where's the audit.log ?
>kvÄ 05 00:09:03 <mcepl>	/var/log/audit/audit.log -- why?
>kvÄ 05 00:09:46 <sysmonk>	i ment the one of your system, anyway, i looked at the bugtraq and found the link to it
>kvÄ 05 00:10:56 <mcepl>	my (or grep postfix of it) is on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=145732
>kvÄ 05 00:14:35 <mcepl>	sysmonk: and yes, I see this problem all the time (even with evolution sending to /usr/sbin/sendmail now)
>kvÄ 05 00:25:57 <sysmonk>	mcepl: looked at the sources, and i don't have any ideas except the queue space check
>kvÄ 05 00:26:07 <mcepl>	sysmonk: cool, thanks
>kvÄ 05 00:26:10 <sysmonk>	and why /boot - because it's a partition
>kvÄ 05 00:26:16 <sysmonk>	wich is mounted
>kvÄ 05 00:26:21 <sysmonk>	which*
>kvÄ 05 00:26:29 <mcepl>	sysmonk: OK, good night
>kvÄ 05 00:27:00 <sysmonk>	mcepl: i aint any developer or guru :) so it's just a guess and a pointing finger where you could search for stuff
>kvÄ 05 00:27:09 <sysmonk>	oh, and you could just email postfix-users@

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