Bug 108770
| Summary: | rhn-applet ignores pgkskiplist, fileskiplist, ignorepackages | ||
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| Product: | [Retired] Red Hat Linux | Reporter: | jerry asher <jerry-redhat> |
| Component: | rhn-applet | Assignee: | Robin Norwood <robin.norwood> |
| Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | Beth Nackashi <bnackash> |
| Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | medium | ||
| Version: | 9 | CC: | mattdm, notting |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | i386 | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
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| Last Closed: | 2006-10-17 19:50:11 UTC | Type: | --- |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
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| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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The applet do not use the up2date configuration informations. The setting are in $HOME/.rhn-applet.conf The variable is IgnoredPackages this is not a bug. The up2date configuration are root owned and protected. You must use the applet configuration for this. Daniel Hi, I am reopening this. First, I want redhat to do well and I
realize that funds aren't unlimited. It's frustrating to see such
poorly documented interfaces, or poorly implemented interfaces. It's
further frustrating to fill out a very detailed bug report to have it
come back as notabug without much thought on your part. It's
disrespectful of the time and energy and cost placed in the creation
of a useful bug report.
I need to use the applet configuration for this? And just what/where
is that? And where is it documented?
I finally realized by looking at the python that I was to use
~/.rhn-applet.conf
But a) if this is notabug of functionality, you should be changing it
to a bug against documentation.
I have a flashy red icon. I click right and I see a menu item
configuration. I click on it. It asks me to accept terms of
agreement, it has me configure proxy info, and it congratulates me.
There is nothing about configuring ignored packages. How do I
configure ignored packages?
Well now I know, but the point is:
1) How come there is no help for this applet?
BUG: Documentation
2) How come clicking right doesn't list the behavior of a left click?
BUG: Implementation
3) How come the left clicked Ignored Package Widget doesn't allow
for multiple selection, something possible in X for at least
12 years now: (or text input with wildcards)
BUG: Implementation
4) How come the applet offers a only configure for
what developers think is a completely different utility
(up2date) on a right click? The point being that if you're going
to explicitly link these two utilities by way of a menu,
than you should understand why users think of these as two faces
of the same utility, and why to users there is only massive
confusion of the differences between IgnoredPackages and
PkgSkipList.
BUG: Design
Clearly there is a bug in here somewhere.
I would think you could easily address 1) and 2) and 3) and then since
I see it many places of interaction on the desktop, that lots of you
RH developers should seriously contemplate 4)) (If you're into zen,
find an old Alan Watts lecture about the bees and the flowers being in
actuality two faces of the same creature, food for thought.)
4) continued. The right click behavior should probably list two menu items: configure-up2date-preferences configure-alert-applet-preferences And all documentation for up2date should include a mention of the desktop interface, the rhn-applet, how and why it is not up2date and how and where to configure that and why you might want to. 1) no help, well the applet is simple, it wasn't obvious that help would be needed. What kind of help, UI ? Config ? it's unclear. that's right that should probably be added. 2) "How come clicking right doesn't list the behavior of a left click?" clicking right where ? What does "list behaviour of a left click" is supposed to mean, really no idea 3) well usually people only have a couple of packages to ignore. Implementing the full selection does not look that useful. I take patch if you know how to do this. 4) Design wise up2date and the rhn_applet are disting program. There is a very good reason for this, the applet MUST run under the user account and up2date MUST run as root to be able to manipulate packages. Considering the massive confusion, except you so far, there haven't been massive confusion, you're the first one to comment about the configuration problem but you indeed seems to have been very confused (or annoyed by this) Daniel Red Hat apologizes that these issues have not been resolved yet. We do want to make sure that no important bugs slip through the cracks. Red Hat Linux 7.3 and Red Hat Linux 9 are no longer supported by Red Hat, Inc. They are maintained by the Fedora Legacy project (http://www.fedoralegacy.org/) for security updates only. If this is a security issue, please reassign to the 'Fedora Legacy' product in bugzilla. Please note that Legacy security update support for these products will stop on December 31st, 2006. If this is not a security issue, please check if this issue is still present in a current Fedora Core release. If so, please change the product and version to match, and check the box indicating that the requested information has been provided. If you are currently still running Red Hat Linux 7.3 or 9, please note that Fedora Legacy security update support for these products will stop on December 31st, 2006. You are strongly advised to upgrade to a current Fedora Core release or Red Hat Enterprise Linux or comparable. Some information on which option may be right for you is available at http://www.redhat.com/rhel/migrate/redhatlinux/. Any bug still open against Red Hat Linux 7.3 or 9 at the end of 2006 will be closed 'CANTFIX'. Again, if this bug still exists in a current release, or is a security issue, please change the product as necessary. We thank you for your help, and apologize again that we haven't handled these issues to this point. |
From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 Description of problem: I freshly installed RH9 on a brand new disk. (Thanks for the upgrade from 4200 to 5400 Hitachi and Dell, I still wish the old disk hadn't crashed!) THE PROBLEM I DESCRIBED BELOW EXISTED UNDER REDHAT 8 TOO (on the old disk) I have an application that requires postgres 7.2.4. I removed the postgres 7.3 rpms, visited the postgres site and downloaded 7.2.4 rpms. I installed them and soon rhn-applet-gui was telling me that I had 10 updates available, one for each of the pg rpms. As root, using up2date-configure, I have tried all permutations of: A) pkgSkipLists of: * postgres postgres* postgresql;postgresql-contrib;postgresql-devel; ... B) fileSkipLists of: * postgres postgres* postgresql;postgresql-contrib;postgresql-devel; ... C) placing in ~/.rhn-applet.conf IgnoredPackages=postgres* Each time I have made a mod, I have a) Tried just clicking on check for updates b) and then killing and restarting rhn-applet-gui QUESTION: Do I need step b) or should step a) be sufficient? I have also many many times tried: up2date -p ALL TO NO AVAIL I have visited rhn.redhat.com and confirmed that at the website, the web rhn db believes my machines needs postgres to be updated. Googling on pkgskiplist reveals this to be a long standing problem. Selecting up2date shows that up2date agrees nothing needs to be updated and the website and applet are both wrong. I) I would like to see the applet fixed II) At the website, I should be able to tell the website to skip packages too. Thanks! Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): rhn-applet-2.0.9 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install Red Hat 8 or 9 2. Install Red Hat's PG 7.3 rpms 3. Remove Red Hat's PG 7.3 rpms 4. Install PG's 7.2.4 rpms 5. Use up2date --configure to indicate up2date should ignore postgres* 6. ??? 7. deprofit Actual Results: The up2date applet turned alarming red with a flashing white exclamation point. Expected Results: The up2date applet turns a nice copacetic blue with a white checkmark. Additional info: