Bug 1036486

Summary:	Feature Request: Distro Upgrades powered by Fedup.
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	Eric Griffith <EGriffith92>
Component:	PackageKit	Assignee:	Richard Hughes <rhughes>
Status:	CLOSED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
Severity:	low	Docs Contact:
Priority:	unspecified
Version:	rawhide	CC:	dantti12, EGriffith92, jonathan, kevin, ltinkl, mattdm, mclasen, rdieter, rhughes, smparrish
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OS:	Linux
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Doc Text:	Feature: Distro upgrades through Fedup and Packagekit Reason: User friendliness, discoverability Result (if any): More direct and more heavily (realworld results) tested upgrades	Story Points:	---
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Last Closed:	2015-05-28 20:32:44 UTC	Type:	Bug
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Description Eric Griffith 2013-12-02 06:28:24 UTC

An idea that I brought up on the phoronix forums: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?90007-Exciting-Features-For-Fedora-20-quot-Heisenbug-quot&p=377337#post377337

Apper's settings have a section dedicated to notifying the user about distro upgrades, but its currently blanked out and unused. Now that fedup has been in a few releases and things have been mostly good, what if its time for those settings TO be used? 

I propose that after a stable release PackageKit prompts the user if it wants to upgrade their system to the newest Fedora version. The dealings of which could be handled by fedup, giving a popup when it was time for the user to reboot to complete the upgrade.

Additionally, Apper could include a setting to check for prerelease versions, starting with either the Alpha or the Beta and offer to give notice of when to upgrade to those.

Comment 1 Kevin Kofler 2013-12-04 00:23:56 UTC

The Apper support for distribution upgrades is there (and I believe it worked back in the PreUpgrade days), but FedUp support is missing on the PackageKit end. Using FedUp directly wouldn't that great an idea for Apper, which is a cross-distribution tool.

I also see on their mailing list that PackageKit wants to drop the distribution upgrade API entirely. I leave it to Richard Hughes to decide what to do with this RFE.

Comment 2 Eric Griffith 2013-12-06 17:44:50 UTC

Interesting that PackageKit wants to drop the Distro-Upgrade API. I guess they're thinking that individual distros know best and something that complicated needs something more dedicated and precise?

Alternatively this RFE could become a minimal daemon that pings the Fedora servers once a week or so checking for a newer stable version, which then prompts a Popup notifying the user of an available upgrade and a little "Click me to ugprade!" button.

I'm just spitballing here, other ideas are of course welcome. I just think FedUp is a great utility and its just sad that its discover-ability isn't more obvious

Comment 3 Richard Hughes 2013-12-10 17:12:11 UTC

Is PackageKit able to query fedup to get the list of any distro upgrades?

Comment 4 Eric Griffith 2015-02-16 16:08:03 UTC

Richard, does the current PackageKit API still allow for wholesale distro-upgrades or no? Whether Fedup has a check is something I don't know but we could probably shoot an email over to one of the fedup guys/gals.

Comment 5 Matthias Clasen 2015-05-28 20:32:44 UTC

We are planning on making distro upgrades available via gnome-software eventually. Not pursuing the feature addition in gnome-packagekit at this point.