Bug 106693

Created attachment 95235 [details]
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The same problem is in the Norwegian translation of up2date-4.1.7-1

This really needs to be fixed!

Is this caused by the translation somehow? I'd like to fix it but I can't really
see where the translation is causing this.

someone says it is a translation problem... but i dont know

This suspiciously looks like
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31707
Also happens with portuguese translation and the version of
up2date/up2date-gnome from rawhide-release-20031018-1. At the time of bug 31707
it seems that only the french translation was fixed. A systematic check should
be in order...

At lease make it viewable on 800x600. Not to have it move Left and
right :(

Thank You

Created attachment 95818 [details]
big window

the screen is not so big

it is not good with this error, the first thing a noob sees when linux
is up and running is a bug.

The problem was there in RedHat 8 and 9 and Core 1. 
When are somone going to fix it???

Created attachment 97499 [details]
up2date-4.1.16-newlines-da-po.patch

This patch should solve the problem for Danish.

Created attachment 97500 [details]
up2date-4.1.16-newlines-no-po.patch

This patch should solve the problem for Norwegian.

the danish up2date problem is solved. thx alot Bart

norweigan also working

i just want to say.....kickass!
setting the patch keyword

*** Bug 91576 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 103911 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 112586 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Any plans to get the patch packaged and released as an update? Can I
help to speed things up?

Created attachment 97589 [details]
up2date rpm for now

Created attachment 97590 [details]
up2date-gnome rpm for now

Setting severity to "translation".

well the problem persist on Portuguese, up2date, up2date-gnome-4.1.21-3
a very big size of up2date window.
neither up2date-gnome-4.1.16-1.0041.bartm.i386.rpm and
up2date-4.1.16-1.0041.bartm.i386.rpm resolve Portuguese problem 
thanks 

This problem is still there in the norwegian translation of
up2date-4.3.15-2, the one in Fedora Core 2 test2, please fix this problem.

I tried fixing this according to the changes shown above, but if it's
a matter of placing the newlines at some magic position to make it
work I think the app is broken beyond repair. This is the only place
I've seen such behaviour in any app I've translated so far.

If you can't make the norwegian translation work, I don't thing you
should include it at all. Its much better to have a working, usable
up2date in english than an unusable one in norwegian. up2date is one
of the first things a new users see after installing Fedora and it has
to work. 

Maybee a little off-topic:

Another localisation thing that should be changed is the use of
mirrors. Many universities and such provide these, and I think fedora
should default to those nearest the selected place (during timezone
setup). The default setting is really awfully slow...

I have also seen som crashes of up2date, looks like it occurs if you
try to minimize the window and it then begins downloading the next
package.

Yet another thing i (and many others) certainly would like, is an
option to use a synaptic-like interface.

I checked again and this problem was fixed in the norwegian
localisation in mid march, but there's been no updated release with
new translations it seems. Please do another release and include
updated translations from CVS.

Norwegian is fixed in development (rawhide) now (26 april), thanks. 

why isnt the danish translation fixed in development. when the
norwegian is

Because the danish translator is lazy? :-)

Seriously, it seems as if the danish translation was last updated in
march, but the pot file it was merged with was from september 2003.
Maybe it needs remerging and updating?

i cant understand why this not is fixed. in bartm's rpms it works
great in danish.

*** Bug 109955 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

RHEL3 U2 up2date-4.2.16-1 window size is larger than 800x600 screen
resolution in multiple specific languages.  Screenshots:

English and Japanese are fine
=============================
http://togami.com/~warren/archive/2004/rhel3u2_up2date_en_US.UTF-8.png
http://togami.com/~warren/archive/2004/rhel3u2_up2date_ja_JP.eucJP.png

Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese and Korean are broken
=============================================================
http://togami.com/~warren/archive/2004/rhel3u2_up2date_zh_TW.Big5.png
http://togami.com/~warren/archive/2004/rhel3u2_up2date_ko_KR.eucKR.png

if the  bug not will be fixed. please turn off the danish laungauge
and make it default english. 

this also happens on fedora core 1 
up2date-4.1.21-3.i386.rpm
up2date-gnome-4.1.21-3.i386.rpm

huge windows size larger than screen resolution on LANG=pt_PT

the workarround is :
export LANG=en_US; up2date

The problem still remains in the FC3T3 release.

The size of the up2date window is still too wide/big to fit the
screen. Not possible to resize the window. I use Danish language on a
i386 system.

The patch is allready submitted. Its in the end of this tread. Why
issent it getting in mainstream?

Same problem in FC3 :(

damn. what is happening. you guys made it english, but now the english
version has the same problem

Created attachment 106653 [details]
english/danish up2date

the workarround is :

export LANG=en_US; up2date

Any progress on this?

Same problem in RHEL4

(This is RHEL4 bug 148913 for RHEL3.)

Up2date to wide, has been fixed for the Danish version in FC4T3

Fixed in FC4.

This is a translation bug and not a bug with up2date itself. Adrian (and I) work
on the up2date code. As this bug has been kicked around for a long long time,
I'm assuming that the translations cannot be fixed and I'm closing this bug.

Jason Connor

One could argue of course that up2date should restrict itself
to not exceed the available screen size but I don't know of that
is feasible for rhel3? :)

I'd like to add some comments from translation point of view, and I'm
reassigning this bug to the package maintainer because I don't believe it's a
translation bug.

All internal translators have worked on this bug in RHEL3 and tried their best
to shorten the translation text to fit into the screen widgets. For some
languages, it is simply impossible to construct anything meaningful with this
size restriction.

Is it possible to redesign/rewrite the code to cater for the natural restrains
of different languages? I expect this problem would effect more users when RHEL
starts support more and more locales/languages.

(In reply to comment #50)
> This is a translation bug and not a bug with up2date itself. Adrian (and I) work
> on the up2date code. As this bug has been kicked around for a long long time,
> I'm assuming that the translations cannot be fixed and I'm closing this bug.
> 
> Jason Connor

re comment #54, it may be possible to change the app, but I'm not sure what
those changes would need to be. What do the translators etc have in mind?
If there are any strings left that aren't properly wrapping, that could
probably be fixed. 

The problem is fixed in RHEL4 after latest update...

translations updated, and all code changes that I'm aware of that can make
this work better applied, and verification it seems better, moving to modified

I need to know what resolution this customer was using, or if that even matters
at this point.  What was the fix here?

New and updted translation.

up2date-4.4.64-3 still has the problem.  Please try it out using People's
Republic Chinese.

test plan:

1- Configure a proper kickstart profile for rhel 3 AS.  In the profile:
   o  packages are @ Base and @ Everything
   o  options -> advanced options.  Set langsupport= --default en_US en_US da nl
no af fr af pt af ja zh zh_CN zh_TW ko.

2- Kickstart a client.

3- Log in to the client using ssh -Y root@<host>

4- Run redhat-config-language.  There should be a list of suported language codes. 

5- Set the system language to a non-English, such as zh_TW.  Log out.

6- On the local machine (assuming the test box is a remote client), change the
resolution to 800x600 using xrandr.  You should not have to log out of X for the
change to take effect. 

7- Log back in to the client using ssh -Y.

8- Run up2date.

updated translations again, it's as close as it's going to get without 
requireing major string changes, or a significant change to the look of
the gui, neither of which I can do at this stage. 

up2date-4.4.66-5 has the latest translations I have available. 

The original bug reported here is long since fixed, so I consider
this closed.

for 800x600 resolution, up2date-4.4.66-3:

Chinese (P.R. of China) -- NOT FIXED
Chinese (Taiwan) -- NOT FIXED
English (Australia) -- FIXED
English (USA) -- FIXED
French (Canada) -- FIXED
German (Switzerland) -- FIXED
Italian (Switzerland) -- FIXED
Japanese -- FIXED
Korean (Republic of Korea) -- NOT FIXED
Portuguese (Brasil) -- FIXED
Spanish (Nicaragua) -- NOT FIXED


-opened 179194 to track the remaining languages for rhel 3 u8
-cloned for rhnupr4u4

An advisory has been issued which should help the problem
described in this bug report. This report is therefore being
closed with a resolution of ERRATA. For more information
on the solution and/or where to find the updated files,
please follow the link below. You may reopen this bug report
if the solution does not work for you.

http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2006-0105.html