Bug 138523

I noticed the PC no longer hangs when I remove the Logitech USB mouse.
more about the mouse:
M/N: M-BJ69
P/N: 830667-0000

Workaround: connect the mouse to the PS/2 port with the mechanical
adapter included with the mouse.

Note: I had the same problem with FC2 but only during installation, it
worked fine after that.

I have the same problem, aber the installation the system hangs at the
first boot.

I've allsow connectet my Logitech mouse to the PS/2 Port but the
system did not start.

Any other solutions?

try adding the option "nousb" to the kernel options in grub (with "e")

No it was another problem, i removed "rhgb" from the grup.conf an the
system boots.

It seembs to be a problem with my nvidia card 

The PC also hangs when I connect a USB 2.0 9-in-1 card reader when the
ehci-hcd module is loaded.

Here's the "lspci" output:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 746 Host (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL
Media IO] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0
Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0
Controller
00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon
Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 12)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1
(rev 05)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port
(rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350
[Radeon 9800 Pro]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon
9800 Pro] (Secondary)


The PC doesn't hang when I unload the ehci-hcd kernel module and only
the ohci-hcd module is loaded. Alas, transfer are slow then (USB 1.1
speeds).
USB 2.0 worked (at USB 2.0 speeds) with the same mainboard (ASRock
K7S8X) with Fedora Core 2.

I get random hanging after the module uhci_hcd is loaded and while
the module ehci-hcd is loaded.

I tracked it down to this by adding debug to /etc/rc.sysinit.

Furthermore, I have worked around the problem by adding a
"sleep 1" before each module is loaded (in the function load_module).

Therefore, given I experience the problem unreliably, and only
the addition of a delay "fixes", I propose it is a race condition
in one of the two USB driver modules.

Opps, I should have said:

I get random hanging just after the module ehci_hcd is loaded, while
the module uhci-hcd is loaded.

sorry.

Nevertheless, a "sleep 1" after module ehci_hcd "fixes" the problem.

I, too

"get random hanging just after the module ehci_hcd is loaded,
while the module uhci-hcd is load[ing]"

It seems to happen right here:

[USB buses get registered, then]
kernel: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech Trackball] on
usb-0000:00:1d.1-1
kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: host system error, PCI problems?
kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: host controller process error,
something bad happened!
localhost kernel: uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: host controller halted, very bad!

Noting comment#1 I moved the trackball to serial using an adaptor, but
since the problem had been random can't be sure this is a genuine
workaround.

Hadn't noticed this at all with FC2 (though, again, randomness can
fool one).

An update has been released for Fedora Core 3 (kernel-2.6.12-1.1372_FC3) which
may contain a fix for your problem.   Please update to this new kernel, and
report whether or not it fixes your problem.

If you have updated to Fedora Core 4 since this bug was opened, and the problem
still occurs with the latest updates for that release, please change the version
field of this bug to 'fc4'.

Thank you.

I have upgraded to FC4 shortly after release, but all kernels released so far
(including kernel-2.6.12-1.1398_FC4) have not fixed the problem.

I posted a more detailed USB device configuration at
http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-usb-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg12420.html

Basically, when ehci-hcd is loaded, the machine hangs unless no USB devices are
connected.

I haven't yet tried putting a delay between module loads as suggested by John
Rosauer, will do it tonight.

Update:

For me, adding a 1 second delay did not solve the problem. The computer still
hangs every time.

Also, the problem still occurs with kernel-2.6.12-1.1447_FC4.

I have mailed linux-usb-users in the past but got no response, any idea what
else I can do to help get this working again?

I have the same problem, except that it resumes booting eventually.

Here is some information about my laptop (HP Pavilion zv5450EA):

http://solid.bounceme.net/pub_files/bootproblem/sysinfo.txt

http://solid.bounceme.net/pub_files/bootproblem/bootchart-without-usb.png
http://solid.bounceme.net/pub_files/bootproblem/bootchart-with-usb.png

Mass update to all FC4 bugs:

An update has been released (2.6.13-1.1526_FC4) which rebases to a new upstream
kernel (2.6.13.2). As there were ~3500 changes upstream between this and the
previous kernel, it's possible your bug has been fixed already.

Please retest with this update, and update this bug if necessary.

Thanks.

I updated to the newest kernel but it still hangs at boot. Too bad :P

The problems is still there, even with kernel-2.6.13-1.1526_FC4

And with kernel-2.6.13-1.1532_FC4 it's there too.

Same for me.

Jan, could you post the output of your "lspci -v" here?

hold on, here it comes: 
[root@pc843 ~]# lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Host Bridge (rev a4)
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0
        Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Capabilities: [44] HyperTransport: Slave or Primary Interface
        Capabilities: [c0] AGP version 2.0

00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 LPC Bridge (rev a6)
        Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0c80
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce3 SMBus (rev a4)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: 66Mhz, fast devsel, IRQ 10
        I/O ports at 2040 [size=64]
        I/O ports at 2000 [size=64]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 1.1 (rev a5) (prog-if 10
[OHCI])
        Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0c80
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 1.1 (rev a5) (prog-if 10
[OHCI])
        Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0c80
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
        Memory at e0001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 2.0 (rev a2) (prog-if 20
[EHCI])
        Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0c80
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
        Memory at e0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Audio (rev a2)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        I/O ports at 1400 [size=256]
        I/O ports at 1c00 [size=128]
        Memory at e0002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:06.1 Modem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00d9 (rev a2) (prog-if 00
[Generic])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
        I/O ports at 1800 [size=256]
        I/O ports at 1c80 [size=128]
        Memory at e0003000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce3 IDE (rev a5) (prog-if 8a
[Master SecP PriP])
        Subsystem: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0c80
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0
        I/O ports at 2080 [size=16]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 PCI Bridge (rev a2) (prog-if 00
[Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=128
        I/O behind bridge: 00003000-00007fff
        Memory behind bridge: e0100000-e17fffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 20000000-23ffffff

00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 AGP Bridge (rev a4) (prog-if 00
[Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 16
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=10
        Memory behind bridge: e2000000-e2ffffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f0000000-f80fffff

00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
        Flags: fast devsel
        Capabilities: [80] HyperTransport: Host or Secondary Interface

00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
        Flags: fast devsel

00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM
Controller
        Flags: fast devsel

00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
Miscellaneous Control
        Flags: fast devsel

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M]
(rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 11
        Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at f8080000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0

02:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000
Controller (PHY/Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
        Memory at e0108000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Memory at e0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
        I/O ports at 7000 [size=256]
        Memory at e0108800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 12fa
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
        Memory at e0104000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]

02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1620 PC Card Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11
        Memory at e0106000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 20000000-21fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: e0400000-e07ff000
        I/O window 0: 00003000-00003fff
        I/O window 1: 00004000-00004fff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

02:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1620 PC Card Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 10
        Memory at e0107000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Bus: primary=02, secondary=07, subordinate=0a, sec-latency=176
        Memory window 0: 22000000-23fff000 (prefetchable)
        Memory window 1: e0c00000-e0fff000
        I/O window 0: 00005000-00005fff
        I/O window 1: 00006000-00006fff
        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

02:04.2 System peripheral: Texas Instruments PCI1620 Firmware Loading Function
(rev 01)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 006d
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
        I/O ports at 7400 [size=64]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2

I just noticed an even stranger details. If I temporarily insert my USB mouse
for a few seconds before udev comes by, it still freezes at the same point.

2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 has been released as an update for FC4.
Please retest with this update, as a large amount of code has been changed in
this release, which may have fixed your problem.

Thank you.

Bug is still present in 2.6.14-1.1637_FC4, unfortunately. Computer locks up
after ehci-hcd module is loaded.

I found a fix for my particular problem: I flashed the latest BIOS (v2.60). 
Loading ehci-hcd no longer makes the PC hang and I can use USB 2.0 devices at
high speed.
None of the BIOS release notes for the ASRock K7S8X that were newer than the one
I was using mention any USB fixes, so I didn't bother trying this earlier until
I read somewhere on the net that it solved someone else's USB problems, too.