Bug 158438
| Summary: | Please avoid sentence splitting in system-config-bind | ||
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| Product: | [Fedora] Fedora | Reporter: | Christian Rose <menthos> |
| Component: | system-config-bind | Assignee: | Jason Vas Dias <jvdias> |
| Status: | CLOSED ERRATA | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | medium | ||
| Version: | 4 | CC: | goeran |
| Target Milestone: | --- | Keywords: | i18n, StringChange |
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | 4.0.0-20 | Doc Type: | Bug Fix |
| Doc Text: | Story Points: | --- | |
| Clone Of: | Environment: | ||
| Last Closed: | 2006-03-14 10:05:14 UTC | Type: | --- |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
| Documentation: | --- | CRM: | |
| Verified Versions: | Category: | --- | |
| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
| Cloudforms Team: | --- | Target Upstream Version: | |
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Do I need to modify s-c-b to join split sentences or can translation be accomplished as is ? Well, the answer depends... Theoretically, a translator with access to the source code to be able to reverse the sentence puzzle and nothing better to do, could in some cases be able to retrofit translated sentence fragments as translations of the existing messages with the existing message design. This would still only hold for a very few languages though; for many languages it would still be impossible to provide a correct translation, especially if there are many conflicts (sentence fragments used in different linguistic contexts). Realistically, many translators wouldn't want to touch these messages with a ten feet pole, since the time needed to reverse engineer these sentence fragments could be better spent translating other pieces of software instead. And the brave souls who try to translate this as-is will probably in most cases produce translations that would make Babelfish translations look like Shakespeare literature in comparison, simply because they lack the time nor the patience to reverse engineer the sentence puzzle, or, because it is impossible to provide a correct translation for linguistic reasons with the current design. This is now fixed with system-config-bind-4.0.0-20 / redhat-config-bind-4.0.0-20. I've done my best to avoid sentence splitting wherever possible without radical redesign. Note that many strings that appear to be sentence fragments are actually proper nouns (eg. "Zone", "View"), dialog titles (eg. "Initializing to defaults"), definitions (eg. "Processing of client requests." ) or are verbs / menu elements (eg. "Edit", "New", "Delete"). Let me know if you've any further issues with system-config-bind translation. Thank You! Christian, I thinkt this is fine now. I have around 10% still to do in my update of system-config-bind, but it looks fine. So I'll close this. |
system-config-bind as of lately includes an insane amount of chopped-up translateable messages; that is, parts of translateable sentences that appear to have been marked for translation seperately with seperate gettext calls. Below is a fictive example of the problem to illustrate it: _("Doing") + _(" like this ") + _(" is ") + _("so") + _(" enormously ") + _("fundamentally") + _(" broken") + _(" from ") + _("any translation point of view.") Sentences can *only* be properly be translated in full! There's no way proper grammar, genders, or word order can be translated into another language without complete access to the full sentence, like so: _("Doing like this is the only way a complete sentence can be properly translated.") You can read more about the endless amount of problems that sentence splitting causes at http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/gnome-i18n/developer.html#split-sentences. Below is a non-complete list of weird sentence fragments that make no sense on their own: #: ../BIND.py:116 ../BIND.py:126 msgid "Zone " #: ../BIND.py:116 ../BIND.py:126 ../BIND.py:134 ../BIND.py:136 ../Zone.py:167 msgid "file" #: ../BIND.py:116 msgid "load error:" #: ../BIND.py:174 msgid "contains a reference to an undefined ACL" #: ../DNS.py:148 msgid "not allowed" #: ../DNS.py:152 msgid "too long - it is over the 63 character limit" #: ../DNS.py:287 msgid " weeks " #: ../DNS.py:289 msgid " week " #: ../DNS.py:293 msgid " days " #: ../DNS.py:295 msgid " day " #: ../DNS.py:299 msgid " hours " #: ../DNS.py:301 msgid " hour " #: ../DNS.py:305 msgid " minutes " #: ../DNS.py:307 msgid " minute " #: ../DNS.py:311 msgid " seconds " #: ../DNS.py:313 msgid " second " #: ../DNSsec.py:743 msgid "has zone" #: ../DNSsec.py:752 msgid "contains zone" #: ../DNSsec.py:250 msgid "for zone:" #: ../DNSsec.py:742 msgid "Check that Remote Server" #: ../DNSsec.py:751 msgid "Check that the directory" #: ../DNSsec.py:744 msgid "in its $ROOTDIR/var/named directory." #: ../DNSsec.py:330 msgid "was not found after dnssec-keygen completed." #: ../DNSsec.py:725 msgid "and Zone Origin strings." #: ../EditDialog.py:88 msgid "cannot be removed from this" #: ../EditDialog.py:101 msgid "cannot be added to this" #: ../EditDialog.py:87 ../EditDialog.py:100 msgid "The" #: ../IPV4.py:203 msgid "is out of zone" #: ../NamedConfOptions.py:170 msgid "Doesn't Have" #: ../NamedConfOptions.py:170 msgid "Has" #: ../NewView.py:26 ../RRGUI.py:2234 ../RRGUI.py:2959 msgid "already exists." #: ../NewZone.py:72 msgid "already exists. Specify another Zone Origin." #: ../NewZone.py:72 msgid "of class" : ../RRGUI.py:122 msgid "or should I append a '.'?" #: ../RRGUI.py:129 msgid " is out-of-zone " #: ../RRGUI.py:507 msgid " contains invalid hex digits : only [0-9] [A-Z] [a-z] allowed." #: ../RRGUI.py:972 ../RRGUI.py:977 msgid "removed." #: ../RRGUI.py:1021 ../RRGUI.py:1024 msgid "is out-of-zone" #: ../RRGUI.py:1924 ../RRGUI.py:1926 msgid "for" #: ../RRGUI.py:2239 msgid "is an Access Control List name." #: ../Zone.py:167 msgid "does not exist" #: ../Zone.py:309 ../Zone.py:317 msgid "Save of Zone File " #: ../ZoneTree.py:143 msgid "already exists. Specify another address." #: ../ZoneTree.py:510 ../ZoneTree.py:513 msgid "and all its contents" #: ../ZoneTree.py:528 msgid "Do you really want to delete" #: ../ZoneTree.py:591 msgid "already exists in view"