Bug 1601699

Summary:	Why is sendmail listed as a required runtime package when no longer required ?
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	Gerald Cox <gbcox>
Component:	redhat-lsb	Assignee:	Ondrej Vasik <ovasik>
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Description Gerald Cox 2018-07-17 04:48:04 UTC

I tripped upon this why researching:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1601698

rpm is reporting that esmtp was installed because of redhat-lsb

I couldn't find reference to esmtp in the spec file, but found
a requires for sendmail - which esmtp acts as a substitute.

However according to:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail

sendmail isn't installed by default in Fedora anymore, so
why is it listed as a requires in redhat-lsb?

I did find this comment:

* Wed Aug 27 2014 Parag <pnemade AT redhat DOT com> - 4.1-29
- Resolves:rh#1133536 - redhat-lsb does not requires /usr/sbin/sendmail

but after reading, it appears that the solution was to add in the Requires for sendmail?

Comment 1 Lukáš Nykrýn 2018-07-17 06:52:45 UTC

Please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1601698#c1

Comment 2 Ondrej Vasik 2018-07-17 06:55:30 UTC

Hi, LSB requires some commands to be present on the system. Unfortunately, sendmail is one of these even in latest 5.0 version of LSB (see https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Common/LSB-Common/rcommands.html#TBL-CORECMD ).

Not much I can do about it here - other than doing some redhat-lsb-complete subpackage where things like qt, sendmail can land. But I'm not sure whether this is a good idea.

Comment 3 Gerald Cox 2018-07-17 16:32:20 UTC

(In reply to Ondrej Vasik from comment #2)
> Hi, LSB requires some commands to be present on the system. Unfortunately,
> sendmail is one of these even in latest 5.0 version of LSB (see
> https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Common/LSB-Common/
> rcommands.html#TBL-CORECMD ).
> 
> Not much I can do about it here - other than doing some redhat-lsb-complete
> subpackage where things like qt, sendmail can land. But I'm not sure whether
> this is a good idea.


Thanks for your reply... the reason I got tied up in all this was because of a change I had made to msmtp and then it sort of snowballed.  I'm not asking you to change anything... I'm just trying to understand why things are setup the way they are.  If you have time, please see my last comment in:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1601698

Thanks for your time.