Bug 1859417

Summary: when new window is closed focus should return to previously focused window
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: william.garber
Component: mate-desktopAssignee: Wolfgang Ulbrich <raveit65.sun>
Status: CLOSED EOL QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Version: 32CC: raveit65.sun, stefano, william.garber
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Description william.garber 2020-07-22 01:01:34 UTC
Description of problem:


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
mate desktop as of 7/21/20

How reproducible:
always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.one window has focus
2.focus switches to another newly selected window
3.close second window when done
4.focus does not return to first window

Actual results:


Expected results:
focus return to previously focused window.

Additional info:

could not find anything meaningful about this after searching web.
it is very common to work e.g. on a list of items in window 1, 
successively launching a second window to deal with each item.
when done with the second window, return to where you were in the 
first window.  This has always been the standard.

e.g. I have "emacs -nw" running in xterm with the "open with" emacs
package from melpa.  in dired I run down a list of ".pdf" files
and open one of them.  Focus switches from the emacs window to 
the pdf application.  When I close the pdf file, NO WINDOW has the
focus.  I would expect the emacs window to have the focus.
This same behavior applies to other applications, not just emacs, 
xterm and the pdf viewer.

Comment 1 william.garber 2020-07-22 01:03:27 UTC
garberw@electron> ps aux | grep wayland
earlyoom    5811  0.0  0.0   2616  1824 ?        SLs  Jul09   0:57 /usr/bin/earlyoom -r 0 -m 4 -M 409600 --prefer ^Web Content$ --avoid ^(dnf|packagekitd|gnome-shell|gnome-session-c|gnome-session-b|lightdm|sddm|sddm-helper|gdm|gdm-wayland-ses|gdm-session-wor|gdm-x-session|Xorg|Xwayland|systemd|systemd-logind|dbus-daemon|dbus-broker|cinnamon|cinnamon-sessio|kwin_x11|kwin_wayland|plasmashell|ksmserver|plasma_session|startplasma-way|xfce4-session|mate-session|marco|lxqt-session|openbox)$
garberw  3254090  0.0  0.0 216220   724 pts/2    S+   18:02   0:00 grep --color=auto wayland
garberw@electron> 


Seems wayland is running.

Comment 2 william.garber 2020-09-22 03:55:47 UTC
https://github.com/jothan/mate-window-manager/blob/master/doc/how-to-get-focus-right.txt

this web page explains that this is an (unpopular) "feature" and not a bug.
in gnome2 when you are 
(1) in a window and you 
(2) launch a second windowed program,

after the second windowed program exits you expect 

(3) the focus to return to the first window.

Instead this update on the github website above seems to make
focus mainly dependent on where the pointer (mouse) is.
It is therefore not a bug, but makes it awkward since the
desktop is usually under the pointer, so you have to press
"alt - tab" to switch to the previous window.
Since pressing "alt-tab" over and over and over and over
is already a big nuisance for something like programming or
data entry, this mouse focus choice is not going to be a popular "feature"
because now you have to press "alt-tab" twice as often,
However, for some users mouse focus could be a useful "optional feature".
Wiping out the traditional standard gnome2 behaviour is frustrating me.

So what is "mouse focus" intended to help? Gamers?
those kind of users probably would not use mate desktop anyway.

Comment 3 william.garber 2020-09-22 03:59:45 UTC
the problem is in the marco window manager.
when switching to compiz window manager I get the
desired standard traditional focus behavior, 
but then there are other distracting problems with compiz.

Comment 4 Wolfgang Ulbrich 2020-09-22 11:02:34 UTC
Talk with Mate developer at github.
If there really something needs to be change it have to be done there.
https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/issues

PS: I am using mouse focus to avoid mouse clicks, an i am not a gamer ;)

Comment 5 william.garber 2020-09-22 18:26:34 UTC
https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/issues/647

moved this discussion to the above link; thank you :-)

noted that others were confused by recent development of that code;
looks like it is still active and not 100% finished (or just complicated).

this is what the developer said in the documented source code.
https://github.com/jothan/mate-window-manager/blob/master/doc/how-to-get-focus-right.txt

can close this issue now.  thank you :-)

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