Bug 187515

Created attachment 127130 [details]
Log file from one previous run, which was hang after some seconds, too

I have the exact same problem with a Dell PE2850 running fc5.  The problem 
happens with kernels 2.6.16.1SMP and 2.6.15.1SMP.  I also just updated to the 
latest x11 pieces and it still hangs.  

I can't boot into runlevel 5, so I boot now into runlevel 3 instead.  

When I startx by hand, the console screen goes black and just sits there.  
When I ssh from another system, I see the X process consuming all of the CPU.  
kill -9 does not kill it.  The only fix seems to be a reboot.  Curiously, 
startx did work once.  But now it won't work to save my life.  

Here is some output from lspci and version info.

Sigh...  Life seemed simpler with Xfree86 - what was wrong with it?

- Greg Scott

[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# /sbin/lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation E7520 Memory Controller Hub (rev 09)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7525/E7520/E7320 PCI Express Port A 
(rev 09)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7525/E7520 PCI Express Port B (rev 09)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7520 PCI Express Port B1 (rev 09)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation E7520 PCI Express Port C (rev 09)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface 
Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE 
Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80332 [Dobson] I/O processor (A-Segment 
Bridge) (rev 06)
01:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80332 [Dobson] I/O processor (B-Segment 
Bridge) (rev 06)
02:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 4 (rev 
06)
05:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge A (rev 
09)
05:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge B (rev 
09)
06:07.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541GI/PI Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller (rev 05)
07:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82541GI/PI Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller (rev 05)
08:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge A (rev 
09)
08:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge B (rev 
09)
0b:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY 
[Radeon 7000/VE]
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# more /proc/version
Linux version 2.6.16-1.2080_FC5smp (bhcompile.redhat.com) 
(gcc version 4.1.0 20060304 (Red Hat 4.1.0-3)) #1 SMP Tue
 Mar 28 03:55:15 EST 2006
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# 
[root@dellweb gregs]# rpm -ql | grep x11
rpmq: no arguments given for query
[root@dellweb gregs]# rpm -qa | grep x11
xorg-x11-font-utils-1.0.1-3
xorg-x11-fonts-truetype-7.0-3
xorg-x11-drv-digitaledge-1.0.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-v4l-0.0.1.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-penmount-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-elo2300-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-tdfx-1.1.1.3-1.3
xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.0.1.2-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-mutouch-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drivers-7.0-2
xorg-x11-apps-1.0.1-2
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.0-3
xorg-x11-utils-1.0.1-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.0.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-acecad-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.1.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.0.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.2.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.4.1.3-3.1
xorg-x11-drv-vga-4.0.0.5-2
xorg-x11-drv-i740-1.0.0.5-2
xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.1-2
xorg-x11-twm-1.0.1-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.0-3
xorg-x11-drv-vesa-1.0.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-dynapro-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.0.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-neomagic-1.0.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-sis-0.8.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-savage-2.0.2.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-tseng-1.0.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-citron-2.1.5-1
xorg-x11-drv-i128-1.1.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-s3-0.3.5.5-2
xorg-x11-drv-dummy-0.1.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.0.1.5-3.1
xorg-x11-drv-magellan-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-fonts-Type1-7.0-3
xorg-x11-xtrans-devel-1.0.0-3.2
xorg-x11-server-utils-1.0.1-1.2
xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.1-1.2
xorg-x11-xkbdata-1.0.1-7
xorg-x11-fonts-base-7.0-3
xorg-x11-xfs-1.0.1-4
xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.0-3
xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.0.4-1
xorg-x11-drv-via-0.1.33.2-2
xorg-x11-drv-ark-0.5.0.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-void-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-magictouch-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-s3virge-1.8.6.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-ur98-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.11.1.3-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-calcomp-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-jamstudio-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-hyperpen-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-palmax-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-joystick-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.0.1-9
dbus-x11-0.61-3
xorg-x11-drv-elographics-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-summa-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-spaceorb-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.0.1.3-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.0.1.3-2
xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.7.6.5-2.1
xorg-x11-drv-microtouch-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-xkb-utils-1.0.1-1.2
xorg-x11-filesystem-7.0-1
xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.0-3
xorg-x11-drv-apm-1.0.1.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-dmc-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.7.1.3-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-siliconmotion-1.3.1.5-1.1
xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.5.7.3-4
xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.0.0.5-1.2
xorg-x11-drv-rendition-4.0.1.3-1.1
xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.0-6
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.0-3
[root@dellweb gregs]# 

I just installed kernel 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 from the fc5 RPMS and rebooted with 
this non-SMP kernel.  The other two kernels when I experienced the problem 
were SMP.  startx works with this non SMP kernel and now that PE2850 is mostly 
idle.

I don't have this system in production yet and I'm willing to gather more data 
as needed.  The problem seems to be related to SMP - how can I help get closer 
to it?  

- Greg Scott

Oh yes - one more note.  Sorry to keep adding comments.  That PE2850 is 
running Dell BIOS A04.  This is the newest one I could find on Dell's website.

- Greg Scott

Sounds like a kernel related hang you are experiencing when using SMP kernels.

Reassigning to kernel component.

duh!

Except that the X process is stuck in some kind of nasty infinite loop with 
the SMP kernel.  So is it X's fault or is the kernel's fault?

- Greg Scott

I checked this again with the newest kernel ans newest x.org packages - problem
still persists.

trying to start x with "xinit" results in "no Corepointer", so I started
system-config-display to create a new configuration. It showed the typical
X-Server background and mouse curser, then showed the blue background and fedora
typical mouse curser and some milliseconds later the machine hang.

I had to switch off and on the machine.

Today I tried kernel package kernel-smp-2.6.17-1.2157_FC5 with the same results.

I made sure that no xorg.conf exists on the system and fired up
system-config-display (from init 3) - after several seconds and one blinking
screen the configuration dialog came up with the default, seemed to figured out
the hardware correctly. I moved the mouse and after some seconds the machine was
frozen.

I'd really want to help you debugging this, please tell me how!

Regards,
Ingo

A new kernel update has been released (Version: 2.6.18-1.2200.fc5)
based upon a new upstream kernel release.

Please retest against this new kernel, as a large number of patches
go into each upstream release, possibly including changes that
may address this problem.

This bug has been placed in NEEDINFO state.
Due to the large volume of inactive bugs in bugzilla, if this bug is
still in this state in two weeks time, it will be closed.

Should this bug still be relevant after this period, the reporter
can reopen the bug at any time. Any other users on the Cc: list
of this bug can request that the bug be reopened by adding a
comment to the bug.

In the last few updates, some users upgrading from FC4->FC5
have reported that installing a kernel update has left their
systems unbootable. If you have been affected by this problem
please check you only have one version of device-mapper & lvm2
installed.  See bug 207474 for further details.

If this bug is a problem preventing you from installing the
release this version is filed against, please see bug 169613.

If this bug has been fixed, but you are now experiencing a different
problem, please file a separate bug for the new problem.

Thank you.

I tested it again and the problem is still there.

What I did:

1. Rebooted with new kernel
2. start system-config-display to configure X
3. Server comes up, displaying background and "nice" mouse cursor, starting
display of the configuration program and half a second later the system hangs.

Regards,
Ingo

I have no ideas on this one. Adam ?

Reporter, could you confirm please, that this bug still could be reproduced with
the latest release of Fedora (FC6)?

Reporter, could you please reply to the previous question? If you won't reply in
two weeks, I will have to close this bug as INSUFFICIENT_DATA. Thank you.

I will try to load fc7 on that same PE2850 that failed last year with fc5.  I 
have a busy week coming up, so I will do the testing either this week or 
next.  

- Greg Scott

My machine is in production now with fc5 - currently I am not able to load fc6
or even Fedora 7 on this machine - sorry.

Regards,
Ingo

Fedora Core 5 is no longer supported, please, could you reproduce this bug with
the updated version of the currently supported distribution (Fedora Core 6, or
Fedora 7, or Rawhide)? If this issue turns out to still be reproducible, please
let us know in this bug report.  If after a month's time we have not heard back
from you, we will have to close this bug as CANTFIX/INSUFFICIENT_DATA.

Setting status to NEEDINFO, and awaiting information from the reporter.

Thanks in advance.

I wiped that same Dell PE2850 that failed 16 months ago with fc5 and loaded 
fc7 from bare metal.  So far everything seems to be working with fc7.  

I have to ask - is bugzilla the proper place to report problems?  It took 
almost 4 months for anyone to respond to the original report and near as I can 
tell, nobody ever worked the problem over the past 16 months.  The original 
problem reports had plenty of info for an engineering team to reproduce the 
problem, yet the only suggestions offered were variations of try the latest 
version and see if the bug persists - and then a comment that the version 
originally reported is no longer supported.  I don't mean to be harsh, but if 
this is the kind of attention this bugzilla system receives, what is the sense 
in taking the time to report problems here?

- Greg Scott

I am really sorry for the delay with replying to this bug -- overload with bugs
is the reason why we are closing all bugs which are not relevant, so we can
focuse on the new ones. Yes, this bugzilla is exactly the best place where you
can get support for Fedora products.

If I understand correctly, you are not able to reproduce this bug anymore, so I
am closing it.