Bug 21596
Summary: | Xconfigurator's Custom Monitor configuration very confusing | ||
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Product: | [Retired] Red Hat Linux | Reporter: | Panic <mdrew> |
Component: | Xconfigurator | Assignee: | Mike A. Harris <mharris> |
Status: | CLOSED RAWHIDE | QA Contact: | David Lawrence <dkl> |
Severity: | low | Docs Contact: | |
Priority: | medium | ||
Version: | 7.0 | CC: | dr |
Target Milestone: | --- | ||
Target Release: | --- | ||
Hardware: | i386 | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
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Last Closed: | 2001-05-17 20:43:56 UTC | Type: | --- |
Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
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oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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Description
Panic
2000-12-01 19:20:49 UTC
This relates to Xconfigurator, so I've changed the component. damn, saw this one after translation freeze. Sorry... Monitor configuration ultimately boils down to a few things here. First thing, is in order to autodetect a given monitor, and set it up automatically, the following must occur, in this order: 1) The monitor _must_ support DDC probe. 2) Our MonitorsDb database must contain an EDID entry for this specific monitor. If it does not, then the user can submit the Windows .INF file for their Monitor, which contains the information we need to configure it properly. 3) The specific video card they are using, must support querying a monitor for it's EDID information (most hardware does), and the XFree86 video driver _MUST_ support DDC probing on that video card. If the card, the driver, or the monitor does not support this, then there is absolutely no way whatsoever to autodetect and autoconfigure a monitor. Many Laptops and LCD panels are not autodetectable for example. Older monitors also do not support DDC. Another issue, is that there are different versions of DDC too. A monitor may support one or more versions of DDC, and a given video card driver may support various DDC versions - or it might only support one version. So, a given card+driver may be able to autoconfigure one monitor, and not another - even though both monitors are PnP. In the case where a monitor must be configured manually - then a user either picks it off a list, and the settings in the database are hopefully correct for that monitor (by whoever put the monitor in the database in the first place). If the monitor is not on the list, and must be configured manually, then as sad as it is, a user is left up to his own devices to configure it on his own. There is no way on earth that we can pull Horizontal and Vertical sync ranges for an unknown device out of the air and offer them as options to a user. Users stuck having to do this, need to find their monitor specifications, either in their manual, on the back of the monitor, on the manufacturer's website, or elsewhere, and then punch in all of those settings. There is nothing we can do to change this or automate it as it requires specifications that we simply do not have. The long term goal of course is to autodetect all modern monitors. I plan on doing some work in this area in the future to simplify monitor configuration, but old monitors will more or less always be left in the dark. As for the predefined ones: Standard VGA, 640x480 @ 60 Hz Super VGA, 800x600 @ 56 Hz Super VGA, 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 800x600 @ 56 Hz et al. Those are for users who KNOW that their monitor is VGA, SuperVGA, etc. If you know which one it is, the horiz/vert frequencies are irrelevant. On the converse, if the frequencies were there, that does not mean that the setting should be chosen just because the monitor matches freqs or comes close. If one does not know, then one has to find out the specs manually and input them. The only way to simplify this, would beto either: 1) Do an exhaustive research on all ancient monitors, gathering specs, etc and completing large portions of the monitor database for monitors not listed. - Since it is ancient hardware, I think R&D can be better spent elsewhere. 2) Drop support for ancient hardware that is complicated to configure, and requires screens that may be confusing to users. Those with the hardware can still use it, but they'll have to edit the config files manually. Most probably a combination of 1 and 2 will be used in the end. Xconfigurator is now obsolete, and will be replaced by a new config tool for our next release. Monitor configuration will be nicer in this release, and future releases. |