Bug 235437

Created attachment 151800 [details]
Emacs support, own installed dirs

*** Bug 245359 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I added the co-maintainers to CC, maybe one of them has the time to process this
request.

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Reassigning to current maintainer.

Ick, I see a xemacs package has been added as well.  The next version of
xemacs-packages-extra will ship mercurial.el too (in the upstream xemacs vc
package).  Having two versions installed is asking for trouble, so one of them
should be dropped.  I'd prefer to keep the version shipping with
xemacs-packages-extra because that's a version that has been tested to work with
XEmacs and integrated well with their package system.  Thoughts?

Also, my fix for the unowned dirs seems to have been dropped without any
comment.  Why is that?  Was there a problem with it?

Do you believe the xemacs version is different?  If so, we should go with that 
one.  Otherwise, I'd prefer the symmetry of having both emacs and xemacs 
together - otherwise user's are going to be a bit confused.

As to the unowned dirs, could you please tell me what are the unowned dirs?  
I've looked at your patch but I don't see which change you made to address 
this issue.

The XEmacs version is not different right now.  But it has been and there's no
guarantee it won't be in the future (I know, I more or less maintain it in
XEmacs upstream).  I'd argue that XEmacs users who are told that mercurial
support is part of XEmacs packages are going to be confused if it is not. 
Whereas upstream mercurial does not install any Emacs/XEmacs support by default,
so there shouldn't be too many people specifically expecting it from the
mercurial package.  And if XEmacs users use the built in XEmacs packages UI to
update their packages locally, they'll get the XEmacs version in any case.  And
when they report bugs back to XEmacs upstream, more confusion will ensue.

I'd not worry about the symmetry, there are several examples already where
XEmacs stuff lives in xemacs-packages-* and does not have to be provided by
other Fedora packages.

Finding the unowned dirs should be trivial from just looking at the output of
"rpm -ql mercurial".  At least all created dirs below pythonx.x/site-packages
are unowned.  My patch fixes it by not using --record which only records files,
thus leaving dirs unowned unless you add the dirs manually.

1. Agree with moving mercurial xemacs to xemacs-extras.
Note: Personally, I would not have site (load "mercurial") by default.  Too 
bad it's not an autoload.  I installed a site-start, but left this commented 
out so user can decide.

2. Fixed ownership of dirs.  Because we need the list of files to manipulate 
it (for hgk), I kept record but just added the dirs.