Bug 24157
| Summary: | "Restart" and "Quit" - really RFE | ||
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| Product: | [Retired] Red Hat Linux | Reporter: | Michal Jaegermann <michal> |
| Component: | sawfish | Assignee: | Havoc Pennington <hp> |
| Status: | CLOSED NOTABUG | QA Contact: | David Lawrence <dkl> |
| Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | medium | ||
| Version: | 7.1 | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | i386 | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
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| Clone Of: | Environment: | ||
| Last Closed: | 2001-01-17 16:10:52 UTC | Type: | --- |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
| Documentation: | --- | CRM: | |
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| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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Description
Michal Jaegermann
2001-01-16 21:46:40 UTC
I think any case where these options are useful would be a bug in the desktop environment. When do you need them? Most users don't care that there is a thing called "Sawfish," they just care that there are window borders. ;-) > When do you need them? I do not understand that comment. I obviously need them when I want to "Restart" (it happens from time to time that a window manager gets confused and restarting it much preferable to loging out and login it - especially if you have a long running processes) or "Quit". In an absence of restart re-logging is the only option. It is also nice to be able to quit without remembering "magic" key sequence when, for example, I am running "bare" Sawfish manager on a laptop. Why this is supposed to be "bug"? > Most users don't care that there is a thing called "Sawfish," This comment trancends boundaries of my comprehension. By the same token most users do not care that there is a thing called "Gnome", or "KDE", or whatever else. Red Hat just happens to be using Sawfish as a default window manager on a Gnome desktop. What this has to do with this report???? The report simply asked not to make things gratituously harder for those who do not follow "one-and-true" way. Shrug! May you never need restart. Most users don't care about GNOME/KDE either. ;-) They find the whole thing confusing. Anyhow, the reason you give for restarting sawfish is that it may have bugs. If so, then we fix those bugs. Would you add a restart button to a word processor? Does any other app have a restart button? But any app can have bugs. Sawfish is not unique in this respect. You only expect restart because traditionally some WM's have had it. I think most often they had it because you had to restart to reparse the config file. But Sawfish has no such issue, so restart is pointless. For both quit and restart, you can always start the window manager capplet and switch to twm and back or something. Quit in particular is out of the question, for most users it's equivalent to a "break my system badly" button and not something you want them to be able to click. > Anyhow, the reason you give for restarting sawfish is that it may have bugs.
Who says that these are sawfish bugs? Maybe there are Netscape bugs or
whatever. You never restarted fvwm or twm because some things stopped
updating properly? I did. So how about fixing these twm bugs for a start?
Through so many years this could be done many times over.
I am not worried about myself. I can alway start 'sawfish-client' and
type there (restart). No problemo! I can also add (and I do) various
extra entries to different menus. I know some folks for which this is
a black magic.
If I start a bare-bones sawfish then how do you propose I logout nicely?
You killed "Quit" menu. Yes, you may put a "Logout" name on it if "Quit"
is grating your nerves.
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