Bug 248231

Summary: Review Request: ustr - String library, very low memory overhead, simple to import
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: James Antill <james.antill>
Component: Package ReviewAssignee: Mamoru TASAKA <mtasaka>
Status: CLOSED NEXTRELEASE QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Version: rawhideCC: fedora-package-review, mtasaka, notting
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mock build log of ustr 1.0.0-2
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mock build log of ustr 1.0.1-0 on rawhide i386
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Description James Antill 2007-07-13 21:51:07 UTC
Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.0-2.fc7.src.rpm
Description: 
 Hi, I already have a couple of packages, so hopefully this shouldn't be too bad :).
 rpmlint gives a couple of warnings, but they should be ignored AIUI.

Micro string library, very low overhead from plain strdup() (Ave. 44% for
0-20B strings). Very easy to use in existing C code. At it's simplest you can
just include a single header file into your .c and start using it.
 This package also distributes pre-built shared libraries.

Comment 1 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-25 18:35:23 UTC
Created attachment 159970 [details]
mock build log of ustr 1.0.0-2

Well, actually a lot of rpmlint complaints...

-----------------------------------------------------
W: ustr incoherent-version-in-changelog 1.0.0-1 1.0.0-2.fc8
W: ustr invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
W: ustr unstripped-binary-or-object /usr/lib/libustr-1.0.so.1.0.0
W: ustr invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
W: ustr strange-permission ustr.spec 0600
W: ustr-debug no-documentation
E: ustr-debug library-without-ldconfig-postin
/usr/lib/libustr-debug-1.0.so.1.0.0
E: ustr-debug library-without-ldconfig-postun
/usr/lib/libustr-debug-1.0.so.1.0.0
W: ustr-debug no-dependency-on ustr
W: ustr-debug summary-ended-with-dot String library, very very low memory
overhead, simple to import.
W: ustr-debug invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
W: ustr-debug unstripped-binary-or-object /usr/lib/libustr-debug-1.0.so.1.0.0
W: ustr-debug-static no-documentation
W: ustr-debug-static summary-ended-with-dot String library, very very low
memory overhead, simple to import.
W: ustr-debug-static invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
E: ustr-debuginfo empty-debuginfo-package
W: ustr-debuginfo invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
W: ustr-devel hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/ustr-1.0.0/.gdbinit
W: ustr-devel summary-ended-with-dot String library, very very low memory
overhead, simple to import.
W: ustr-devel invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
W: ustr-static no-documentation
W: ustr-static summary-ended-with-dot String library, very very low memory
overhead, simple to import.
W: ustr-static invalid-license MIT, LGPL, BSD
------------------------------------------------------
Summary
* version mismatch between the last entry of %changelog and
  rpm EVR.
* Perhaps MIT/LGPL/BSD will remove rpmlint complaint.
* Please change the permission of spec/tarball to 0644
* Calling ldconfig is needed for library
* "unstripped-binary-or-object" is usually due to wrong
  permission (i.e. this binary should have executable permission,
  usually 0755)
* Please remove dot from the end of summary
* debuginfo rpm is empty. This means that debug option "-g" flag
  is not used on compile.
  I checked the build log (attached) but no useful information is
  gained from the build log.
  - Please make the build log more verbose
  - and Fedora specific compilation flags are perhaps not honored.
* What is the file /usr/share/ustr-1.0.0/.gdbinit for?

Other quick comment:
* Source must be written with full URL.
* Please check directories' ownership.
* Usually the dependency for main or subpackage should be
  version-release number specific
* summary seems all the same for all packages??
* Please use %_includedir
* Files under %_datadir/doc or %_mandir are automatically
  tagged as %doc

Comment 2 James Antill 2007-07-25 18:56:32 UTC
* version mismatch between the last entry of %changelog and
  rpm EVR.

 Fair enough.

* Perhaps MIT/LGPL/BSD will remove rpmlint complaint.

 I'll try that.

* Please change the permission of spec/tarball to 0644

 This will happen automatically when it goes into Fedora CVS, no? Doing this
outside of Fedora CVS means playing with my umask settings.

* Calling ldconfig is needed for library

 AIUI this isn't required. You either need to call ldconfig, or explicitly
generate the symlinks that ldconfig would do ... but not both. And the former is
preferred. If you could point to something official that says otherwise, I'll
gladly change it.

* "unstripped-binary-or-object" is usually due to wrong
  permission (i.e. this binary should have executable permission,
  usually 0755)

 Fixed.

* Please remove dot from the end of summary

 Yeh, I thought I'd done that but I only did the main package.

* debuginfo rpm is empty. This means that debug option "-g" flag
  is not used on compile.
  I checked the build log (attached) but no useful information is
  gained from the build log.
  - Please make the build log more verbose
  - and Fedora specific compilation flags are perhaps not honored.

 I'll look into this, it doesn't use autoconf ... so I might well need to pass
something for CFLAGS.

* What is the file /usr/share/ustr-1.0.0/.gdbinit for?

 It can be copied to a users (developer using the library) home dir, and is
copied via. the ustr-import to the working directory.
 I can change the library to call it gdbinit.txt, if I really need to ... it
just seems like a false warning (and as with all lints there's no good way to
turn it off).

Other quick comment:
* Source must be written with full URL.

 Fixed.

* Please check directories' ownership.

 Which directories?

* Usually the dependency for main or subpackage should be
  version-release number specific

 As far as I can see they all do. Which one isn't?

* summary seems all the same for all packages??

 This is common for libraries, no? For instance glib2 and glib2-devel have the
same summary but different descriptions ... what else should I be doing?

* Please use %_includedir

 Fixed.

* Files under %_datadir/doc or %_mandir are automatically
  tagged as %doc

 Ok, removed the doc tag.


Comment 3 James Antill 2007-07-25 19:05:36 UTC
* Calling ldconfig is needed for library

 Nevermind, I've fixed this. I was thinking of something else.


Comment 4 James Antill 2007-07-26 05:56:44 UTC
 New versions of both the srpm and spec file at:

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-0.fc7.src.rpm

...rpmlint on all the generated binaries gives:

W: ustr strange-permission ustr.spec 0600
W: ustr-debug no-documentation
W: ustr-debug no-dependency-on ustr
W: ustr-debug-static no-documentation
W: ustr-devel hidden-file-or-dir /usr/share/ustr-1.0.1/.gdbinit
W: ustr-static no-documentation

...the "no docs" are false positives, as is the .gdbinit file. The no-dep-on
ustr is just wrong, and the ustr.spec snafu will be fixed by getting it in CVS.

 Anything else?


Comment 5 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-26 15:18:38 UTC
Created attachment 160029 [details]
mock build log of ustr 1.0.1-0 on rawhide i386

* I just tried to rebuild, but it failed (please check the bug
  attached)
* And please make the build log more verbose. The log like
-------------------------------------------------
Compiling for A DBG lib: ustr-b-dbg-code.c
-------------------------------------------------
  is not useful. We cannot check if compilation flags are correct
  from this log.

Comment 6 James Antill 2007-07-27 01:42:52 UTC
* I just tried to rebuild, but it failed (please check the bug
  attached)

 Ahh, a bug! That'll teach me to not check i386 too.

* And please make the build log more verbose.

 This is a really bizarre request, but OK. I've put a mildly horrible hack in so
it'll spam all the details to the build.log. New version at the same URLs as
last time:

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-0.fc7.src.rpm


Comment 7 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-27 03:32:32 UTC
From next time please bump release number every time you modify
your spec/srpm.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/FrequentlyMadeMistakes
--------------------------------------------------------------
ncrease the "Release" tag every time you upload a new package to avoid
confusion. The reviewer and other interested parties probably still have older
versions of your SRPM lying around to check what has changed between the old and
new packages; those get confused when the revision didn't change.
--------------------------------------------------------------

Comment 8 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-27 16:41:05 UTC
Created attachment 160126 [details]
mock build log of ustr 1.0.1-0 on rawhide i386 (2nd time)

(Assuming that you are the upstream of this package
 and you have not yet released 1.0.1 formally)

* For /sbin/ldconfig, usually we don't write Requires(post) and
  so on.

* rpm (sub)packages which contains pkgconfig .pc files should
  have "Requires: pkgconfig"

* mock build log says that fedora specific compilation flags are
  not honored.

* The following directories are not owned by any packages.
------------------------------------------------------
%{_datadir}/ustr-%{version}/
%{_datadir}/doc/ustr-devel-%{version}/
------------------------------------------------------
* Usually the dependency for other subpackages must be
  version-release specific. i.e. -devel package should have
  Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}, for example

* Use %_includedir for /usr/include.

* I have not installed ustr yet, however would you check the
  dependencies between subpackages?
  For example, why does -debug subpackage require -static subpackage?
  (well, this is a question)

* For summary
(In reply to comment #2)
> * summary seems all the same for all packages??
>  This is common for libraries, no? For instance glib2 and glib2-devel 
> have the same summary but different descriptions ... 
  Strange... Anyway as you can try "rpmdev-newspec libfoo" to
  create skeleton spec file, usually summary and description for
  -devel subpackage are like:
--------------------------------------------------------
%package	devel
Summary:	Development files for %{name}
Group:		Development/Libraries
Requires:	%{name} = %{version}-%{release}

%description	devel
The %{name}-devel package contains libraries and header files for
developing applications that use %{name}.
----------------------------------------------------------

* And please increase release number
  (Perhaps you want to set release number as 1 when review is done

   and wants to set release number 0 during review, but please
   don't. At least please increase release number as 0.1, 0.2, ...)

Comment 9 James Antill 2007-07-27 17:53:27 UTC
(Assuming that you are the upstream of this package
 and you have not yet released 1.0.1 formally)

 Yes.

* For /sbin/ldconfig, usually we don't write Requires(post) and
  so on.

 Why? What is best practice, no deps. or just a normal requires?

* rpm (sub)packages which contains pkgconfig .pc files should
  have "Requires: pkgconfig"

 This is true even if it's not required. From the upstream POV it isn't
required, it can be used if you find pkg-config easier to use ... or you can
just do -lustr etc.
 Obviously I can add it to the rpm anyway, if you want though.

* mock build log says that fedora specific compilation flags are
  not honored.

 Ok, I thought:

CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export CFLAGS ;

...was enough, as that's what the %configure macro seems to be using. I can't
find any documentation on what I should be calling here (there is no ./configure).

* The following directories are not owned by any packages.
------------------------------------------------------
%{_datadir}/ustr-%{version}/
%{_datadir}/doc/ustr-devel-%{version}/
------------------------------------------------------

 My bad, I assumed dir/* got dir too.

* Usually the dependency for other subpackages must be
  version-release specific. i.e. -devel package should have
  Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}, for example

 Fixed.

* Use %_includedir for /usr/include.

 In the %files section? Fixed.

* I have not installed ustr yet, however would you check the
  dependencies between subpackages?
  For example, why does -debug subpackage require -static subpackage?
  (well, this is a question)

 I can't remember :(. I've changed debug to just depend on devel, and
debug-static to depend on debug.

* For summary
(In reply to comment #2)
> * summary seems all the same for all packages??
>  This is common for libraries, no? For instance glib2 and glib2-devel 
> have the same summary but different descriptions ... 

  Strange... Anyway as you can try "rpmdev-newspec libfoo" to
  create skeleton spec file, usually summary and description for
  -devel subpackage are like:

Summary:	Development files for %{name}

 Ok, I guess the other stuff just hasn't been fixed yet. Fixed.

* And please increase release number
  (Perhaps you want to set release number as 1 when review is done

   and wants to set release number 0 during review, but please
   don't. At least please increase release number as 0.1, 0.2, ...)

 Yeh, I didn't want rel=1 until it's 1.0.1 is released upstream, I'll upload a
0.2 version as soon as I can find out what to do about:

 requires for pkg-config
 requires for ldconfig
 CFLAGS


Comment 10 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-27 18:31:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> * For /sbin/ldconfig, usually we don't write Requires(post) and
>   so on.
>
>  Why? What is best practice, no deps. or just a normal requires?
  - The most unkind answer is that "it is as written on
    packaging guideline". 
    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ScriptletSnippets
    I guess /sbin/ldconfig is so common?

    Note: while I don't know if rpm adds the dependency for
          Requires(post) or etc, at least if %post -p <program>
          is written, rpm seems to add automatically the <program> to
          Requires.

> * rpm (sub)packages which contains pkgconfig .pc files should
>   have "Requires: pkgconfig"

>  Obviously I can add it to the rpm anyway, if you want though.
   - Well, though I wrote "should", this is a "MUST" item of
     the review
     http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines
     (As written, the reason is directory ownership and
      usability for .pc file)

> * mock build log says that fedora specific compilation flags are
>   not honored.
> 
>  Ok, I thought:
> CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export CFLAGS ;
> ...was enough, as that's what the %configure macro seems to be using. 
> I can't find any documentation on what I should be calling here 
> (there is no ./configure).
  %optflags is autually the flags we want to use. It is just
  CFLAGS you set is not honored by this way for this package
  (i.e. If normal way is not used to honor %optflags, you have
        to make %optflags honored *somehow*. Perhaps you have to
        investigate Makefile how compilation flags are used.)

Comment 11 James Antill 2007-07-27 23:29:46 UTC
 Hopefully this fixes all of the above:

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-0.2.fc7.src.rpm


Comment 12 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-28 06:10:03 UTC
Well, I just tried to rebuild -0.2 on koji target dist-f8:

* Still fedora specific compilation flags are not honored (partially).
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=80296&name=build.log
* Rebuild seems to fail on ppc
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=80293

Comment 13 James Antill 2007-07-28 21:22:02 UTC
* Still fedora specific compilation flags are not honored (partially).
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=80296&name=build.log

 On what?
 The unit tests?
 Or the fact that the -debug version of the library turns some of the
optimizations down?
 I don't see anything else, but maybe I'm just missing it.

* Rebuild seems to fail on ppc
  http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=80293

 Damn, I'll see if I can reproduce this on a fedora-devel-i386 mock build.


Comment 14 James Antill 2007-07-29 00:56:13 UTC
 It doesn't but I can reproduce the failure with:

koji build --scratch --arch-override=ppc dist-f8
/home/james/work/build/ustr/ustr-1.0.1-0.2.fc7.src.rpm


Comment 15 James Antill 2007-07-29 03:07:08 UTC
 Well I've "fixed" the ppc problem.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=80882

  Although the fix implies I need to fix a bunch of other points. Anyway, if you
can let me know about the build flags I'll do an another update.


Comment 16 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-07-29 16:37:19 UTC
Well, now ustr is rebuilt on all archs as:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=80889


Then for -0.6:

> * Still fedora specific compilation flags are not honored (partially).
>  On what?
>  The unit tests?
  - Oh, yes, for tests. Perhaps this can be ignored.

* File entry
  - I just noticed that: 
-------------------------------------------------
$ rpm -qlp ustr-*rpm | sort | uniq -d
/usr/include/ustr-conf-debug.h
/usr/include/ustr-debug.h
-------------------------------------------------
   ? Perhaps it is better that all header files are
     hidden under /usr/include/ustr.

* Compilation flags
  ? On compiling debugging source code:
-------------------------------------------------
Compiling for A DBG lib: ustr-io-dbg-code.c
cc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -W -Wall -Wundef -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith
-Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs
-Wno-format-zero-length -Wformat-nonliteral -Wformat-security  -O1 -ggdb3      
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -o ustr-cmp-code-a-dbg.o -c
ustr-cmp-dbg-code.c
-------------------------------------------------
    the fedora compilation flags (-O2) is overwritten
    by -O1. Is this intentional?

* File name
  ? Well, it is okay, however would you rename the file
    which contains white space in its name?

Comment 17 James Antill 2007-07-30 07:19:35 UTC
   ? Perhaps it is better that all header files are
     hidden under /usr/include/ustr.

...if I did that the users would have to alter their -I build flags to use the
headers, saying that I think I'll be forced to move at least ustr-conf.h out to
/usr/lib/ and /ustr/lib64/ if multilib. development is to be supported.
 I'll have to think about this more.

   ? the fedora compilation flags (-O2) is overwritten
    by -O1. Is this intentional?

 Yes, GCC/GDB gets confused at -O2 so for a "debug mode" you want to reduce that
confusion as much as possible.


   ? Well, it is okay, however would you rename the file
    which contains white space in its name?

 This is part of upstream, is it policy to rename upstream files? I guess I can
change the spaces to dashes at install time, but it means html documentation
pointing to the file won't work unless I run that through sed etc.


Comment 18 Ralf Corsepius 2007-07-30 08:01:42 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
>
>    ? the fedora compilation flags (-O2) is overwritten
>     by -O1. Is this intentional?
> 
>  Yes, GCC/GDB gets confused at -O2 so for a "debug mode"
> you want to reduce that confusion as much as possible.

Either this package is obeying RPM_OPT_FLAGS, or ... if it can't, it has to be
considered broken or you are triggering a bug in GCC.

In any case, this is a MUSTFIX.

 

Comment 19 James Antill 2007-07-30 17:52:41 UTC
 Ralf, I'm not sure if you know the context for the above. The Fedora flags are,
roughly:

-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic

...and you appear to be saying that adding other options is fine, as long as you
don't change the behaviour of any of the above? (although I'd be shocked if
nothing did -Wno-* which turned off a -Wall option).
 I can sort of understand it for all of them apart from -O1, but what is the
rationale for requiring optimizations at that specific level? This is esp. true
given that we are talking about _sub-package_ specifically for development, with
the main package using the exact CFLAGS you want.
 You are requiring making the debugging worse in Fedora, for no good reason that
I can see. If you are going to hold to that line, due to it being policy, I'd
like to know how I can go about getting this policy fixed.


Comment 20 Ralf Corsepius 2007-07-31 04:03:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #19)
>  Ralf, I'm not sure if you know the context for the above. The Fedora flags are,
> roughly:
> 
> -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic
> 
> ...and you appear to be saying that adding other options is fine, as long as you
> don't change the behaviour of any of the above?
More or less, yes, that's what I am saying.

The core behind this is: A package's CFLAGS must not use a different ABI.

> (although I'd be shocked if
> nothing did -Wno-* which turned off a -Wall option).

-W* options are warnings. They don't change the ABI.

>  I can sort of understand it for all of them apart from -O1, but what is the
> rationale for requiring optimizations at that specific level?
-O* flags imply many other flags and have many side-effects (such as inlining,
certain optimizations, certain arch-dependent optimizations etc.), which
implicitly gradually change over time.

I.e. what you currently think about -O1 might be true on your current setup, but
is not unlikely not apply in 2 years and on other archs. Therefore, using a
consistent set of optimizations (RPM_OPT_FLAGS) and not to play tricks with them
is important for a distro's quality.

That said, unless there is an inevitable technical requirement (which I don't
see in this case), things like -ggdb3 are just silly. 
Requiring -O1 in almost all cases means a major bug inside of a package and
questions its usability.

>  You are requiring making the debugging worse in Fedora, for no good reason that
> I can see.
> If you are going to hold to that line, due to it being policy, I'd
> like to know how I can go about getting this policy fixed.
In this case, I am going to be hard - Fix the package.


Comment 21 James Antill 2007-07-31 06:02:55 UTC
> The core behind this is: A package's CFLAGS must not use a different ABI.

 Your definition of ABI is vastly different to mine, apparently.

> -O* flags imply many other flags and have many side-effects (such as inlining,
> certain optimizations, certain arch-dependent optimizations etc.), which
> implicitly gradually change over time.

 Indeed they do, none of those change the Application Binary Interface though.
And, as I would normally presume you'd know, they do affect things like
hampering debugging of code (which, being the -debug package might be kind of
the point).

> >  You are requiring making the debugging worse in Fedora, for no good reason that
> > I can see.
> > If you are going to hold to that line, due to it being policy, I'd
> > like to know how I can go about getting this policy fixed.

> In this case, I am going to be hard - Fix the package.

 As I said I can make the package worse so it passes review (I'll upload a 0.7
package tomorrow), but again I'd like to know how I get this problem with policy
fixed ... so at some point in the future I can unbreak the package.


Comment 22 Ralf Corsepius 2007-07-31 06:31:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #21)
 
> > -O* flags imply many other flags and have many side-effects (such as inlining,
> > certain optimizations, certain arch-dependent optimizations etc.), which
> > implicitly gradually change over time.
> 
>  Indeed they do, none of those change the Application Binary Interface though.

* -ggdb3 does. If GCC doesn't support it, your package won't build nor will it
be usable.

> And, as I would normally presume you'd know, they do affect things like
> hampering debugging of code (which, being the -debug package might be kind of
> the point).
Yes, -O2 always reduces debug-ability of the code, so what is the problem you
are trying to solve?

> > >  You are requiring making the debugging worse in Fedora, for no good
reason that
> > > I can see.
> > > If you are going to hold to that line, due to it being policy, I'd
> > > like to know how I can go about getting this policy fixed.
> 
> > In this case, I am going to be hard - Fix the package.
> 
>  As I said I can make the package worse so it passes review (I'll upload a 0.7
> package tomorrow), but again I'd like to know how I get this problem with policy
> fixed ... so at some point in the future I can unbreak the package.
I guess you will understand, that I consider your answer to be non-acceptable
and inappropriate.


Comment 23 James Antill 2007-07-31 22:13:42 UTC
> * -ggdb3 does. If GCC doesn't support it, your package won't build nor will it
> be usable

 You are saying -ggdb3 Changes the ABI? I don't think so.
 Yes, that is somewhat of a GCC specific option. As are all the -W flags.
 If that's the only objection, I'm not that bothered about droping that.

> Yes, -O2 always reduces debug-ability of the code, so what is the problem you
> are trying to solve?

 Ok, so explaining again:

. The srpm currently produces 6 packages, the most relevant to this are the two
"main" ones:

ustr-1.0.1-0.7.fc7.x86_64.rpm
ustr-debug-1.0.1-0.7.fc7.x86_64.rpm

...the first is the library built for "production", and is what all the people
using a program that uses the library will see. The second is _the same code_
built using as much debugging as possible, so (expensive) internal consistency
checks are called often; optimizations are turned down; etc.
 The idea being that anyone developing code using the library can use the
debugging version while doing development and it will actively alert them to
errors. Forcing build flags that make debugging harder when using this package
is not doing to help anyone.

> I guess you will understand, that I consider your answer to be non-acceptable
> and inappropriate.

 Actually I didn't, and still don't, understand that ... I said I would do what
you wanted to follow policy, even though it was wrong, and I repeatedly asked
how I could fix policy.
 Is one not allowed to point out that policy is wrong?

 I can't imagine what I said that was inappropriate.


Comment 25 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-02 14:51:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #16)
> Then for -0.6:
> * File entry
>   - I just noticed that: 
> -------------------------------------------------
> $ rpm -qlp ustr-*rpm | sort | uniq -d
> /usr/include/ustr-conf-debug.h
> /usr/include/ustr-debug.h
> -------------------------------------------------
  - This is not yet fixed on -0.8 .
    (i.e. both -devel and -debug package contain the files
          above.)

Comment 26 James Antill 2007-08-03 07:15:39 UTC
 Ok, hopefully for the final time...

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-0.9.fc7.src.rpm


Comment 27 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-03 12:23:22 UTC
Ah..
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=87418

Note:
  You can use %exclude . i.e. for example:
-----------------------------------------------
%files devel
..............
%{_includedir}/ustr.h
%{_includedir}/ustr-*.h
%exclude %{_includedir}/ustr*debug.h
..............
%files debug
..............
%{_includedir}/ustr*debug.h
..............
----------------------------------------------------
Perhaps this should be okay



Comment 28 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-03 12:33:22 UTC
More one point:
- As we can see on the -devel list, the license tag guideline is changed.
  For this package, please use:
---------------------------------------------
MIT or LGPLv2 or BSD
---------------------------------------------
  (the seperator seems changed to "or", and for LGPL now we have to
   specify version, i.e. LGPLv2 or LGPLv2+)

Comment 29 James Antill 2007-08-03 16:49:44 UTC
 Ok, sorry, I thought my mock builds were checking for installed but not covered
files. Thanks for the except tip, I didn't kjnow about that.
 Also fixed the license:

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-0.10.fc7.src.rpm

Comment 30 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-03 18:34:52 UTC
One question (for clarification)

You seemed to choose LGPLv2+ (not LGPLv2), however where can I
found that this can be licensed as LGPL "and later"?

Comment 31 James Antill 2007-08-03 19:25:07 UTC
 Well the LICENSE file refers to LICENSE_LGPL which says:

  If the Library does not specify a license version number, you may choose any
version ever published by the Free Software Foundation.

...and version 2 was the oldest version of LGPL. If that's not enough does an
upstream change of:

diff --git a/LICENSE b/LICENSE
index 5d03476..c1faf88 100644
--- a/LICENSE
+++ b/LICENSE
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
  This code is multi Licensed under all/any one of:
 
-LGPL                     - http://www.and.org/ustr/LICENSE_LGPL
+LGPLv2+                  - http://www.and.org/ustr/LICENSE_LGPL
 New Style BSD (2 clause) - http://www.and.org/ustr/LICENSE_BSD
 MIT                      - http://www.and.org/ustr/LICENSE_MIT

...make this clearer?


Comment 32 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-03 23:47:22 UTC
Yes, I think it makes the license clearer.

Comment 33 James Antill 2007-08-04 05:53:09 UTC
 Ok, official upstream release 1.0.1 vers. 1:

Spec URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr.spec
SRPM URL: http://people.redhat.com/jantill/fedora/ustr-1.0.1-1.fc7.src.rpm

...also has the LICENSE changes.


Comment 34 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-04 07:38:27 UTC
Please add the last entry "1.0.1-1" to %changelog before you
commit to CVS.

-------------------------------------------------------------
   This package (ustr) is APPROVED by me
-------------------------------------------------------------

Comment 35 James Antill 2007-08-04 15:51:19 UTC
 N/p, on the changelog thing (although I assume it's ok if I use 1.0.1-2, given
that's probably the first version I'll upload?).

New Package CVS Request
=======================
Package Name: ustr
Short Description: String library, very very low memory overhead, simple to import
Owners: james.antill
Branches: FC-6 F-7 EL-4 EL-5
InitialCC: 


Comment 36 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-04 16:30:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #35)
>  (although I assume it's ok if I use 1.0.1-2, given
> that's probably the first version I'll upload?).
No problem.

Comment 37 Kevin Fenzi 2007-08-04 18:13:57 UTC
cvs done.

Comment 38 Mamoru TASAKA 2007-08-06 13:49:59 UTC
Please close this bug as NEXTRELEASE when rebuild is done.