Bug 356961

As I mentioned to you in bug 214387 comment 3, I don't think XEmacs 21.5.27 with
Xft was production ready, and I don't think there were any significant
developments in 21.5.28 that would have changed the situation.  21.5.29 should
be out real soon now, will have a look how it has developed.

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When Stephen Turnbull, who is involved in XFT development, thinks that it is ready for prime time, I'll be more open to adding this option to the Fedora build.  Until then, I'm going to leave XFT off in production.  I will leave this bug open for now, though, to remind myself to check into the current situation periodically.

This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 12 development cycle.
Changing version to '12'.

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*** Bug 581612 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

An update for the interested: the problems noted by Stephen Turnbull in this message:

http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-beta/2009-August/016875.html

still need to be resolved before we turn Xft support on for Fedora.  The help of some capable coders would be much appreciated.

I *am* open to making a new package, say xemacs-xft.  It would come with a README that says, in effect, "if you encounter font or display problems of any kind, don't bother filing a bug on bugzilla.redhat.com, because I'll just close it WONTFIX."

Is that acceptable?

- xemacs-xft version would be perfectly fine for me
- I was aware of the problems mentioned by Stephen Turnbull and thought they would only apply when XFT is actually enabled by the user, not merely compiled in but I may be wrong here.

I built a local version with Xft support, but did not change my .Xdefaults file, and wound up with the infamous "display turds" problem.  That may mean that I somehow picked up Xft fonts without trying.  I don't know.

My plan is to wait for a few days to see if 21.5.30 is released, then create the xft subpackage and rebuild everything.  I'll address your database issue at that time, too, unless there is some reason why I need to hurry or if it becomes apparent that 21.5.30 will not be released soon.

strange, it seems that it now does use xft by default when compiled in. Something must have changed because when I compiled support for it last year it took me quite some searching in mailing lists to figure out how to actually enable it.

In my case it appears some appearance manager might have set the Xresources attributeFont globaly. In another case I did remotely ssh into a machine which did xrdb -merge... appears the settings are much easier to pick up by accident than what I expected.

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc13 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 13.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc13

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc12 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 12.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc12

Here we go, for some definition of "a few days" later.  Sorry.  I really thought a 21.5.30 release was imminent.

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc12 has been pushed to the Fedora 12 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update xemacs'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc12

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc13 has been pushed to the Fedora 13 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update xemacs'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc13

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc13 has been pushed to the Fedora 13 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

xemacs-21.5.29-13.fc12 has been pushed to the Fedora 12 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.