Bug 378001
Summary: | Firefox doesn't have any functionality at all! | ||
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Product: | [Fedora] Fedora | Reporter: | sean.mcguffee |
Component: | firefox | Assignee: | Gecko Maintainer <gecko-bugs-nobody> |
Status: | CLOSED DUPLICATE | QA Contact: | Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa> |
Severity: | urgent | Docs Contact: | |
Priority: | low | ||
Version: | 8 | CC: | mcepl, mzotyoka |
Target Milestone: | --- | ||
Target Release: | --- | ||
Hardware: | All | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
Doc Text: | Story Points: | --- | |
Clone Of: | Environment: | ||
Last Closed: | 2007-11-19 14:40:49 UTC | Type: | --- |
Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
Documentation: | --- | CRM: | |
Verified Versions: | Category: | --- | |
oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
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Description
sean.mcguffee
2007-11-12 15:47:23 UTC
1) we cannot ship proprietary software (that includes flash-plugin, adobe acrobat reader, and google toolbar) 2) you can read PDF perfectly well with evince, which should be the program run automatically when clicking on PDF link. 3) Javascript is certainly on and working. I suspect that you have something strange in your ~/.mozilla profile. Could you please move it somewhere else (e.g., rename it to ~/_mozilla-save) and restarting firefox. Does Javascript work then? (and of PDF should be opened in Evince as well) Let me see if I get this right? You and I can both freely download flash-plugin, adobe acrobat reader, and google toolbar, but you aren't allowed to let me download it from you after you download it? Why don't you just do it and let them try to sue you? You can always just take a video of it being free for anyone to take to court if you really think it would got there. That way you could prove that they didn't lose any money by you doing it. You were right about firefox having the recommended Java installed (1.7.0) according to the java test page. However, you were also wrong because this is what happens when I try to use java in firefox at aol's chess site: " The following error has occurred: Java Not Found or Not Working Explanation: This error means Java (one of the technologies built into most browsers) is not working correctly on your browser. You must have Java installed on your computer in order to run Pogo games, and it must be functioning properly. Either you don't have Java installed yet, or the Web browser you're currently using doesn't support Java or you have Java (or Javascript) disabled in your browser. How to Fix the Problem: Java is a free download that is required to play Pogo games. Not all computers come with Java pre-installed. If you haven't played Pogo games before and are getting this error, you probably just need to install Java on your computer. For instructions on installing Java for your operating system and browser click here. If you believe Java might be installed but disabled for your browser, please be sure to enable the plugin for your browser. If you need help, click here. If you already have Java installed and it is not disabled, your Java may be out-of-date or is no longer working. In that case, your Java might need to be upgraded or reinstalled. If you need help, click here. " on http://game1.pogo.com/error/java-problem.jsp?site=aolc while trying to load a chess game from: http://aolcom.pogo.com/games/chess?gamekey=chess&returnType=game&returnValue=chess2&nlruser=true It says java is installed when I try the site: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, but then it doesn't function as I just illustrated. However, I can't get google toolbar's bookmarks to work on firefox, so it doesn't really do any good to have java on a web browser that I can't use with my bookmarks. I am now trying to get java to work on netscape navigator. I can get google toolbar to function completely on netscape, but not on firefox. Anyway, I guess it would be best to get both working correctly, right? I tried taking the plugins that I used to use on FC7 and putting them in my /usr/navigator/plugin directory (they were from a java i386 download). I also tried just now taking the java plugin listed in the new .mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat file (since it's working on mozilla firefox by the test site if not on the real usage site). However, it still gave me the message at the top of the screen that I needed a plugin to see the page properly. I've tried a lot of things. I have gotten three types of results. The main result is that no plugin is recognized and netscape tells me that a plugin is required. The other two responces have been either a shudown of the browser upon testing or a lack of any response upon testing. I tried the http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp page finally to help speed up the testing process, but I guess that isn't sufficient. Anyway, could you help me get netscape to use java? It's the newest navigator I'm using. By the way, I tried to use the nspluginwrapper thing to get java to work on netscape, but it gave me errors about the java plugins not being the right type of plugins for it to work. It did work for the flashplayer though. I'm not sure if that's the way you were recommending because I figured that out before I got your email. I do have vague memory that was how I installed java in FC7 though. Thus, I might have a problem if that method won't work. I just think it would be better for people to figure this stuff out, make a button that does it, and then distribute FC8 instead of having everyone figure it out after the distribution. Or at least once it's figured out they could make a download patch that automatically fixes it. There are a lot of man hours being wasted this way that could be used to improve the software after it's working, you know? Maybe we could sue the proprietary companies for not letting you distribute things in a way that work--that would be a legitimate case because a lot of harm is being done here by suddenly not having a system that functions at all by trying to upgrade. I've wasted a total of 76 hours of straight doing nothing but trying to get my computer to work again. I'm completely unable to do any work without a functional computer. Old versions of fedora are so nonfunctional because of being incomplete that I have to at least try to upgrade. I just wish the main stuff would work, you know? I wish they would just upgrade by adding new things and not messing with the stuff that does work already. By the way, firefox prevents me from doing things without holding control down (you know what I'm talking about with popups or whatever?). However, the button that should let me change that to avoid the annoying inconvenience doesn't work. Honestly, if anyone is stupid enough to want or need one of those type of things, then let them screw up their machine. Obviously they are using their computer for porn. Please think about who you are designing your software for. If anyone has a reasonable use of their computer, they don't need porn protection. Thus, why don't you allow regular users to use their computer regularly without screwing it up with needing control keys held down constantly? Why not just let the porn man have his own trouble. He's gonna have trouble if he's that into porn anyway, right? In other words (in case you can't understand my rhetoric), please take the control key popup protection off, not to mention get the button to let me take it off. By the way, the PDF thing worked out alright. Somehow that plugin worked great from the button install method. I never could get that to work on FC7. Assuming google toolbar ever gets fixed on firefox, there are only about three reasons left regarding why I still turn to windows under necessity. First, I like to use dictation software, and I found some really good stuff that is designed to work on a windows machine. Second, I like to use webcams sometimes on instant messengers, although not lately. But, you know, like yahoo IM didn't have a webcam feature on here last time I checked on here. Third, I'm kinda into the brand names of software like office, and endnote. However, that's changing. I think I'm getting close to switching over completely. At this point, the openGL stuff brings me to linux by necessity. I certainly can't find any way to program in C on windows. I might be possible, but I don't count on my programs being transferable to the next windows version. Do you know of a way to run software for windows while in linux? Is there a freeware way to do that? Thanks for your valuable help, Sean =) Hello! Here are two links, that provide instructions on how to install flash, wine and a lot of other things for fedora: http://www.fedorafaq.org/ http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f8.html If I understand you correctly, you want to disable the pop-up blocking in firefox? You can do this by going to Edit -> Preferences -> Content and uncheck the "Block pop-up windows" option. I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, that wine can be used to run windows programs on linux. (In reply to comment #3) > Why don't you just do it and let them try to sue you? Won't happen. Ever. Period. Don't even waste your time asking (Red Hat being an American coproration won't make itself into moving target for litigation). > You were right about firefox having the recommended Java installed (1.7.0) > according to the java test page. However, you were also wrong because this is > what happens when I try to use java in firefox at aol's chess site: Please, don't confuse JavaScript and Java -- they have absolutely nothing in common (marketing guy in Netscape who invented the name JavaScript because Java was hot then should be burned in hell). > It says java is installed when I try the site: > http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, but then it doesn't function > as I just illustrated. Which indicates to me, that AOL Pogo chess is broken. I have tried to run the same page here (I have IcedTea OpenJDK installed) and firefox crashed. Whatever it is they are doing, it doesn't seem to be right IMHO. > However, I can't get google toolbar's bookmarks to work on firefox, Do you have 64bit Linux installed by chance -- then this would be duplicate of bug 386051, which should be closed in my opinion. > I am now trying to get java to work on netscape navigator. Note, that Netscape Navigator is not Firefox, we don't have source code for it, and it is most likely that AOL put patched it so that it works with AOL website and Google. If it works, don't come to us to tell, that we should fix Firefox accordingly. We have no idea what they did to it to make it work. > tried to use the nspluginwrapper thing to get java to work on netscape, nspluginwrapper from Fedora probably doesn't work for Netscape. Not sure about that though. > Do you know of a way to run software for windows while in linux? wine is able to run some Windows programs on Linux, but no guarantees about that (and I have no idea whether wine works for x86_64 at all). There are also some proprietary software enabling most common Windows programs on Linux. So, after making myself ugly by not providing flash, etc., what is there remaining in this bug which would be our issue? Sorry, I only recognized that this is actually duplicate of bug 386051 from the same reporter. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 386051 *** |