Bug 42193

Summary:	ls has changed its default ordering
Product:	[Retired] Red Hat Linux	Reporter:	Paul Michael Reilly <pmr>
Component:	fileutils	Assignee:	Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <bero>
Status:	CLOSED NOTABUG	QA Contact:	Aaron Brown <abrown>
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Version:	7.1
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Description Paul Michael Reilly 2001-05-24 19:26:24 UTC

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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686; en-US; 0.8.1)
Gecko/20010425

Description of problem:
.xxx files are now listed according to XXX instead of placing them first as
a group.

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.type ls -al
2.see that .*** files are no longer grouped together before ***
3.
	

Additional info:

Comment 1 Bernhard Rosenkraenzer 2001-05-25 10:52:54 UTC

Locale-awareness is a feature, not a bug.
If you want to turn it off, export LC_COLLATE=C

Comment 2 Adam Thompson 2001-06-07 02:45:14 UTC

Sorry.  Anything that *BREAKS* scripts after an upgrade IS NOT A FEATURE.

I don't **CARE** if it's POSIX-compliant behaviour, it is inappropriate 
behaviour for an out-of-the-box install.

Maybe that means making the default locale "C" again instead of en_US or 
en_whatever, since I don't recall any way to select the C locale during install.

...like I really needed another excuse to switch to BSD instead of upgrading a 
dozen RedHat customers to 7.1.  Much as I dislike "for historical reasons" 
showing up in the manpage, /bin/ls is critical enough to way too many scripts 
to change DEFAULT behaviours.

(Besides - since when does "." get ignored during collation?  It has a position 
in any collation order.  Maybe before alphas maybe after, but I don't expect 
collation to simply IGNORE characters it doesn't feel like sorting.)