Bug 435179

Summary:	Virtualization Documentation.
Product:	Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5	Reporter:	Norman Mark St. Laurent <mstlaure>
Component:	doc-Virtualization_Guide	Assignee:	Christopher Curran <ccurran>
Status:	CLOSED CURRENTRELEASE	QA Contact:	Content Services Development <ecs-dev-list>
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Priority:	medium
Version:	5.1	CC:	ddomingo, ghelleks, mhideo, timiller
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Description Norman Mark St. Laurent 2008-02-27 19:23:23 UTC

Description of problem:
Big Government Customers are complaining about the Virtualization Guide, and the
fact that it is not current and complete.  Customer would like to put a guide to
the installation of the OS's that Xen can run (i.e., all versions of Windows).


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Steps to Reproduce:
1.  Latest down load of the virt guide on Red Hat web site.
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Comment 1 Don Domingo 2008-02-27 23:26:54 UTC

reassigning to Chris Curran, who is working on a major revamp of the Virt-Guide

Comment 2 Christopher Curran 2008-02-28 02:34:49 UTC

Define all version of windows... The new virt
guide(https://engineering.redhat.com/docbot/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html-single/Virtualization_Cookbook/)
has a detailed example of installing XP. I could probably get information on
installing Server 2003 as well as it's much the same as installing XP. By memory
95/98 is very easy to install with QEMU so it's probably just as easy on Xen
making it a pretty trivial task for me to add based on what I know. NT4 is much
harder but still possible. Vista is one which I have no idea about but I've
heard people can get it running.

There is a capatcha between it being possible to document and being able to
document it. At the moment I am pushin for an almost complete version to be
inserted into snapshot 3 of 5.2 on the 13th of March. I have been given an ACK
to exceed that and go to the next snapshot which is on the 21st of March but at
the cost of becoming a blocker for RHEL 5.2. Do you want this bug fixed for 5.2?
I estimate there is around 5 days of work plus tech review in addition to the
present bug fixes and feature requests. This would be a bit of a time blowout
for 5.2 but if you can get the ACKs and permissions I can make it happen.

Comment 3 Norman Mark St. Laurent 2008-02-28 03:07:06 UTC

The more examples of windows versions we can have in the documentation the
better.  We have been competing with VMWare, and have a significant government
following using Xen.  As this becomes operational Documentation like "Security
Features Users Guides" and "Privileged Users Guides" will need to be filled out
as a requirement for system admins, security engineers, and information security
officers.

These government documents pull the needed items from our manuals.

Every customer I have has asked for better documentation.  I do not think there
is a time date, but if we are showing progress, that would be great.  XEN
because of its performance will be running windows.  There is a great need to
document this, especially if we have to hit a hidden F5 to load... etc...  etc.

Thanks.

Comment 4 Christopher Curran 2008-02-28 04:23:31 UTC

So the real question now is whether the previous document meets the level of
progress we are looking for for this release. If there is such a big impact on
customers it is possible I could get assigned to add even more information to
the documentation on this particular topic. The problem is one of resources
though so I suggest we add Mike (and possibly Paul Gampe) into the thread.

Comment 5 Norman Mark St. Laurent 2008-02-28 12:23:43 UTC

We are selling Xen  hard against vmware and zones.  Any edge we have helps. 
Proper up dated documentation is very important to the end user.  Thks.

Comment 6 Michael Hideo 2008-03-04 00:16:16 UTC

Hi Norman,

5.2 will deliver:

Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 SP1

Can you give me a priority listing of Windows OSs that you would like us to
document and we will begin documenting the R&D effort in that order.

Cheers,
Mike

Comment 7 Norman Mark St. Laurent 2008-03-04 02:17:40 UTC

NT 4.0 and 2000 are also big on the list.  I would also gather vista, but I have
not had a request yet for vista.

Best regards,

Comment 9 Tony Fu 2008-09-23 23:49:04 UTC

User mstlaure's account has been closed

Comment 10 Christopher Curran 2008-10-27 01:47:04 UTC

Without dedicated engineering assistance this bug cannot be fixed. This bug requires subject matter expert assistance.

Comment 11 Christopher Curran 2009-08-06 06:52:42 UTC

Windows 2008 is included. NT is no longer supported by MS and we do not officially support it. All supported versions of Windows are documented now.