Bug 436063

Please 
* could you sync your palm as a root user?
* what is the getfctl output of /dev/bus/usb* - which is attached to your palm?
  (you can find it using command hal-device)
* which type of palm do you use?
thanks.

Created attachment 296999 [details]
output of hal-device

here is the output of hal-device, I'm guessing my device is the sony

I tried as root and it was the same thing.

It is a sony clie tj37.  It used to work.  It is palm OS 5.x

I'm guessing you mean getfacl?  It gives before sync:

getfacl /dev/bus/usb/*
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/bus/usb/001
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

# file: dev/bus/usb/002
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x


then after sync button pressed, by the way there is no 'beep' like normal when
the sync starts

getfacl /dev/bus/usb/*
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: dev/bus/usb/001
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

# file: dev/bus/usb/002
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x

Please could you try to reproduce this bug with the last pilot-link package:
pilot-link-0.12.3-13.fc9.

Is it in fc8? 

Unfortunately not yet, it is awaiting a new hal and hal-info package to be
pushed in F-8 (bug #434960) but the hal maintainer has yet to respond to the
request.  Then F-8 can probably be updated, see bug #280251 comment #131 for
more details on what is required for proper fix in F-8.

I have to agree with Alex, now I'm waiting for hal and hal-info change for fc8,
I'm trying to get in touch with its maintainer but I'm unsuccessful yet. 

As a work around I found out that I can mount the sd card in my clie as a hard
drive.  So I was able to backup all the data in the pda to the card and then
download what I wanted off the card.  It worked like a usb drive.  

At this time I'm going to wait for the updates and hope you can find the
maintainer, or that someone else can take on the task. 

It may transpire that bug #454178 is related: the TJ-37 mentioned in this bug
has a different VID/PID (0x054c/0x0169) to the SJ-22 in bug #454178, but the
TJ-37 doesn't have the USB_INIT_SONY_CLIE flag set in pilot-link HEAD either.

Whatever, it's currently being obscured by permissions issues: the "not working
as root" and getfacl output in comment #3 would seem to contradict, unless
there's both a compatibility _and_ permission issue.

Joe: does pilot-xfer work if you try booting from a Fedora 9 Live CD? This
would, at least temporarily, solve the permissions problem.

Joe: pilot-link-0.12.2-21.fc8 has been pushed to the F8 stable repo. Does this
fix your problem? (Or if you've moved to F9, do you still have problems with the
latest updates).

Make sure you remove any hand-modified configuration before you install the
latest updates.

If not I have an idea of what else to try, and can probably create you a patched
RPM if you can't build a patched version yourself?

ok, just tried as root on fc9 - pilot-link-0.12.3-13.fc9.i386

same thing it does not work

Created attachment 316700 [details]
Patch adds USB_INIT_SONY_CLIE for Sony Clie TJ-37 and SJ-22

Joe: could you try installing the following RPM on F9 and letting me know whether it works for your Clie, please?
http://www.krp.myzen.co.uk/pilot-link-0.12.3-15.fc9.i386.rpm

Just trying "pilot-xfer -p usb: -l" should be enough.

If you have an up to date F9 system it should work as non-root; if you're updating it on a LiveCD you'll probably need to be root again to bypass earlier permissions issues.

If you need to rebuild (e.g. for x86_64) the SRPM is here:
http://www.krp.myzen.co.uk/pilot-link-0.12.3-15.fc9.src.rpm


Alex, Ivana: I've rolled Michael's patch from bug #454178 and a new patch for Joe's TJ-37 into the attached patch - it applies to the Fedora CVS F-9 and devel branches. The RPM linked above is a test with the patch applied.

I propose Michael and Joe test it first (and Alex?), and if it's ok you apply to head. Fwiw it works for me, but I don't have a Clie (but it hasn't broken anything for me, not that it should ;)  )

Rebuilt the 0.12.3-15.fc9 SRPM for x86_64 via Mock, and it syncs with my Clie just fine.  Both pilot-xfer -list and PilotManager work.

Thanks a lot, Kevin, 
I will wait to Joe respons if he writes it works for him I will add "Sony TJ" part to f9/devel cvs (the first part is in cvs now).

well this all works now.  problem is that I have not used my pda in so long that it discharged and all the data got wiped out from it.  Including the data on the memory card.  

In any case I got a Nokia N810 and have been using that for the past few months. 

It seems to be working now though.

Hello Joe, please which version do you test?

I used the version at:

http://www.krp.myzen.co.uk/pilot-link-0.12.3-15.fc9.i386.rpm

thanks, 
Joe

Joe: thanks, great to know that works.

Ivana: we're good to apply the second part of my patch, right?

pilot-link-0.12.3-16.fc9 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 9.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pilot-link-0.12.3-16.fc9

Kevin: Yep, added to pilot-link-0.12.3-18.fc10, pilot-link-0.12.3-16.fc9. 

Joe: could you please test fc9 version ^ ?

It seems to work and backup the files.

pilot-link-0.12.3-16.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update pilot-link'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-8406

pilot-link-0.12.3-16.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.