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|Summary:||Clock drift in certain KVM guest|
|Product:||[Fedora] Fedora||Reporter:||Alan Pevec <apevec>|
|Component:||kvm||Assignee:||Glauber Costa <gcosta>|
|Status:||CLOSED WONTFIX||QA Contact:||Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>|
|Version:||9||CC:||abo, berrange, chrisw, clalance, dgunchev, djuran, imain, katzj, mlichvar, virt-maint|
|Fixed In Version:||Doc Type:||Bug Fix|
|Doc Text:||Story Points:||---|
|Last Closed:||2009-07-14 11:21:25 EDT||Type:||---|
|oVirt Team:||---||RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host:|
Description Alan Pevec 2008-05-30 20:06:49 EDT
Description of problem: in certain KVM guests (let's call it WUI) time drifts significantly (slows down) while in the other guest (clet's call it NODE) on the same host, time stays stable. One significant difference is: NODE - LOC: 100321 Local timer interrupts WUI - LOC: 1088230 Local timer interrupts This happens even with clocksource=acpi_pm boot param ( TSC is unstable, from WUI dmesg: Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 4686864172 ns) Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): kernel-184.108.40.206-18.fc9.i686 kvm-65-7.fc9.i386 How reproducible: every time Steps to Reproduce: 1. build WUI guest: wget http://ovirt.org/download/create-wui-appliance.sh sh create-wui-appliance.sh -v -t http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/os/ -k http://ovirt.org/download/wui-rel-i386.ks 2. on WUI: service ntpd stop; ntpd -q -d 3. wait ~10min; ntpd -q -d Actual results: clock drifted, ntpd -q -d output shows (last line): e.g. ... ntpd: time set +74.993754s Expected results: clock doesn't drift: e.g. ... ntpd: time slew -0.054264s Additional info:
Comment 1 Glauber Costa 2008-06-02 09:34:19 EDT
For the record, what is the current clocksource in your guest? (As the output of cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource)
Comment 2 Alan Pevec 2008-06-02 10:55:22 EDT
acpi_pm since I have clocksource=acpi_pm but it was also falling back to this b/c of unstable tsc (Clocksource tsc unstable w/ few sec delta in dmesg) Important data I missed in the report is CPU: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz stepping : 6 This stepping doesn't have C2 support. Mobo is Q35 beta
Comment 3 Alan Pevec 2008-06-02 10:57:58 EDT
On suggestion from chrisw I'm testing with: commit 3d80840d96127401ba6aeadd813c3a15b84e70fe Author: Marcelo Tosatti <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri Apr 11 14:53:26 2008 -0300 KVM: hlt emulation should take in-kernel APIC/PIT timers into account After running for few hours, the same VM doesn't exhibit such time drift, ntpd -q -d says: time slew +0.039053s
Comment 4 Alan Pevec 2008-06-02 15:57:58 EDT
Adding to comment 3 - after I left VM idling for few more hourse, time drifted again ( > 1000s so it was too much even for ntpd -q ) Will try now on a different CPU...
Comment 5 Chris Lalancette 2008-06-03 07:25:06 EDT
Just for another data point, I have a Core2 Due E6850, running the WUI, and ntp seems to be keeping the time perfectly in sync for me. Chris Lalancette
Comment 6 Perry Myers 2008-06-03 10:21:35 EDT
Another data point. I have a Core2 Duo E6850 running the WUI and when I disable NTP my guest loses time rapidly (1 minute lost out of every 10). I tried a test where I disabled ACPI in the Guest via libvirt config, and now time is kept perfectly in sync with the guest.
Comment 7 Alan Pevec 2008-06-03 11:14:29 EDT
I can confirm that on Q9450 with ACPI disabled in WUI guest, I get stable time, ntpd -q after ~15min shows: ntpd: time slew +0.051113 And this is with original F9 KVM kmods: /sys/module/kvm/srcversion B9D8A55988A3D85FD59B48E /sys/module/kvm_intel/srcversion 26AB3206D8CB359A69D697D
Comment 8 Alexander Boström 2008-12-23 12:31:33 EST
I see this too. F10 x86_64 host on Athlon X2, F10 i686 guests. clocksource=acpi_pm How little drift is reasonable to expect? If time on the host is well kept then there should be nothing for ntpd in the guests to do. The guests should just hwclock --hctosys, ntpdate or similar once at boot and then time in the guest should stay in sync with the host from then on, because there should be no clock drift to compensate for. But can we hope for acpi_pm emulation to become that good?
Comment 9 Bug Zapper 2009-06-09 21:18:17 EDT
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Comment 10 Doncho N. Gunchev 2009-06-20 03:17:22 EDT
I am using KVM with 64 bit fedora 11 and 64 bit guests (maybe the version should get updated) and had similar problem. With fedora 11 guest 'cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource' shows kvm-clock and all works fine (ntpd). With CentOS kernel 2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 I get jitter > 5000 and ntpd refuses to work. Clock source is jiffies (the only one available). With CentOS kernel 2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 with 'notsc divider=10' added to the kernel boot line I get jitter from 18 to 20 on three virtual machines and ntpd works fine. HTH.
Comment 11 Bug Zapper 2009-07-14 11:21:25 EDT
Fedora 9 changed to end-of-life (EOL) status on 2009-07-10. Fedora 9 is no longer maintained, which means that it will not receive any further security or bug fix updates. As a result we are closing this bug. If you can reproduce this bug against a currently maintained version of Fedora please feel free to reopen this bug against that version. Thank you for reporting this bug and we are sorry it could not be fixed.