Bug 456045

Summary:	too much localisation by default in fedora slows it down (i.e. firefox). en_US should be enough by default.
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	stefan <stefan1975>
Component:	firefox	Assignee:	Gecko Maintainer <gecko-bugs-nobody>
Status:	CLOSED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Priority:	low
Version:	9	CC:	jbayes, mcepl, walters
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Description stefan 2008-07-21 07:56:53 UTC

Description of problem: firefox on fedora is insanely slow, mainly due to *lots*
of default installed (language) plugins. I would prefer a more vanilla firefox.
More generally speaking I would like less localisation by default and as in for
example opensuse a dialog during installation asking the languages to install
and otherwise default to en_US only. All the extra languages and stuff make
fedora unneccesarily slow and use up disk space.


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): firefox 3 on F9


How reproducible: default install of fedora (live-cd or install dvd)


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Actual results: slow firefox behaviour to the point i replace it with swiftfox
without 100s of plugins


Expected results: vanilla firefox, fedora tuned for speed.


Additional info: X

Comment 1 Matěj Cepl 2008-07-22 07:03:07 UTC

Sorry, there is no much to say about it, just that there are many reasons why we
won't do it. Fedora is proud to support much more languages then others, and I
was told by our developers that language packs actually don't take that much
space in RAM for us to be it a problem.

Consequently, closing as WONTFIX.

Comment 2 stefan 2008-07-22 20:17:55 UTC

Hi,

thanks for the reply and I understand the position. I do think t is cool to
support a lot of languages but why are they not made *optional* just like the
rest of the localisation during install. I mean FF3 on fedora takes +15 seconds
to start up for me whereas on my Arch install on the same pc it starts nearly
instantly. I hardly can believe that this is something preferred by fedora users
or developers that it is So much Slower then comparable systems. I even went as
far as deleting all the stuff (plugins / localisations) i did not want, which
helped a lot, just to be reinstalled after a later "yum update", which made it
sloooow again.

thanks again,
stefan

Comment 3 Joe Bayes 2008-07-24 01:11:21 UTC

Perhaps the language packs could be put into a separate package (or packages)?
That way Fedora could still support all those languages, but users could select
for only languages that they understand. At the very least, it would knock 11
megs off of the download every time a new version comes out. 

spoo:/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.1$ du -s . extensions
13944   .
11492   extensions
spoo:/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.1$

Comment 4 Fedora Update System 2008-07-25 19:10:07 UTC

pdns-recursor-3.1.7-2.fc9 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 9