Bug 474734

Summary: Blurriness of Latin letter R (U+0052) in Liberation Regular
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: san <watchingman>
Component: liberation-fontsAssignee: Caius Chance <me>
Status: CLOSED CURRENTRELEASE QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Version: 11CC: fonts-bugs, i18n-bugs, me
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Description Flags
test case
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test case screeenshot
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web sshot
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"R" letter
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antialias use Grayscale option in Ubuntu
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antialias use Subpixel option in Ubuntu
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waterfall shows R is displayed nicely
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oowriter shows R is displayed nicely 6px-18px none

Description san 2008-12-05 01:23:35 UTC
Created attachment 325767 [details]
test case

Package: ttf-liberation
Version: HEAD (1.0.04.93)
Severity: normal

the character R (U+0052, Latin Capital LETTER R) appears ugly when using Liberation Sans in small pixelsize.

fork the test case from Holger Levsen in  Bug 473481,  you can see this bug also exists in Liberation Sans Italic, Liberation Serif, Liberation Serif Italic.

Comment 1 san 2008-12-05 01:24:41 UTC
Created attachment 325768 [details]
test case screeenshot

Comment 2 san 2008-12-05 01:27:21 UTC
Created attachment 325770 [details]
web sshot 

hightlight "R" in web page screenshot

Comment 3 David Hlacik 2008-12-08 21:39:51 UTC
Created attachment 326199 [details]
"R" letter

Same when using Subpixel smoothing and Bytecode interpreter

Comment 4 Caius Chance 2008-12-09 02:00:40 UTC
I have checked and the hinting tables (hinting instructions, fpgm, prep, maxp, cvt) are all existing in there.

Comment 5 Caius Chance 2009-01-13 00:41:55 UTC
Have you test on non Firefox (or similar like epiphany)?

Firefox has pango. Also, please turn off anti-aliasing before testing.

I could only fix hinting but not how pango operates.

Comment 6 Caius Chance 2009-01-13 00:56:07 UTC
Hi, could I ask which part of the glyph you feel is ugly? Personally I feel 'R' looks similar as other characters.

Comment 7 san 2009-01-14 07:02:07 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> Hi, could I ask which part of the glyph you feel is ugly? Personally I feel 'R'
> looks similar as other characters.

please take a look for web sshot I committed (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=325770) in which

Letter "R" is marked with red color. the last stroke of "R" is gray not the same black as other strokes.

I enable slight hinting for Liberation Sans.

Comment 8 Caius Chance 2009-01-16 00:06:25 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> please take a look for web sshot I committed
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=325770) in which
> 
> Letter "R" is marked with red color. the last stroke of "R" is gray not the
> same black as other strokes.

Could you kindly screenshot the R in non-Pango application? (such as gedit)


> I enable slight hinting for Liberation Sans.

Would you mind re-confirm in 'gnome-appearance-properties' which anti-aliasing is *off* please?

Comment 9 san 2009-01-16 12:06:35 UTC
Created attachment 329196 [details]
antialias use Grayscale option in Ubuntu

Comment 10 san 2009-01-16 12:08:03 UTC
Created attachment 329197 [details]
antialias use Subpixel option in Ubuntu

Comment 11 san 2009-01-16 12:11:59 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > please take a look for web sshot I committed
> > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=325770) in which
> > 
> > Letter "R" is marked with red color. the last stroke of "R" is gray not the
> > same black as other strokes.
> 
> Could you kindly screenshot the R in non-Pango application? (such as gedit)
> 
> 
> > I enable slight hinting for Liberation Sans.
> 
> Would you mind re-confirm in 'gnome-appearance-properties' which anti-aliasing
> is *off* please?

refer to comment 9 and 10. it seems antialias with subpixel enabled cannot get  blurriness.

Comment 12 Caius Chance 2009-01-21 05:19:47 UTC
Created attachment 329544 [details]
waterfall shows R is displayed nicely

Comment 13 Caius Chance 2009-01-21 05:21:16 UTC
Created attachment 329546 [details]
oowriter shows R is displayed nicely 6px-18px

Comment 14 Bug Zapper 2009-06-09 10:08:41 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 11 development cycle.
Changing version to '11'.

More information and reason for this action is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

Comment 15 Caius Chance 2009-07-01 02:50:04 UTC
Zap this bug. Please reopen if bug persists after testing on latest version.