Bug 509190

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Does installing the latest gnome-power-manager and DeviceKit-power packages in updates-testing (and then rebooting...) fix the problem?

Installed gnome-power-manager-2.26.4-1.fc11.i586 and DeviceKit-power-010-0.3.20090810git.fc11.i586

Problem is still exists.

I upgraded to F12 -> same problem.

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Upgraded to F13. Problem is still there.

I have the same problem with my MSI Wind U100 (MS-N011) netbook.
I use F13 in 32 bits (actually 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.i686.PAE kernel).

Having the same issue with Fedora 13 from fresh install. as soon as AC power is disconnected, I get a warning message about battery critically low and goes into hibernation. No such problem with the fedora 13 LiveCD KDE version.

I have had this problem from a very long time. Some folks on ubuntu have noted that this problem might have something to do with upower.

I typed this python script first:

import os
while (1):
        os.system("upower -d")

and ran it, redirecting the output into a file.
As it was running, I unplugged my AC cable. As expected, my laptop suspended.

After waking up my laptop, I stopped it and took a look at the output file. The problem seems to be with the energy-rate.

I ran "grep energy-rate:" on the output file and this is what I got:

[dilip@Blackpearl experiments]$ grep energy-rate upower.out
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         6.0495 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         0.4884 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         4.662 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         5.6832 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
    energy-rate:         6.7488 W
[dilip@Blackpearl experiments]$



You can clearly see whats happening when I unplug the power supply.

Hope this helps. Please let me know if you need any more details.

Regards.
Dilip

(In reply to comment #11)
> I have had this problem from a very long time. Some folks on ubuntu have noted
> that this problem might have something to do with upower.

UPower just proxies the values from the kernel.

> You can clearly see whats happening when I unplug the power supply.

I really can't that's just a list of rate values. Could you get the verbose output from upower please:

(as root)
killall upowerd
/usr/libexec/upowerd --verbose

and then *attach* the output to this bug please, showing the disconnect, suspend and then resume. Thanks.

Sorry, I wasn't being very clear.

Anyway, something seems to be wrong. When I tried /usr/libexec/upowerd --verbose this is what happened:

TI:19:01:07	FI:egg-debug.c	FN:egg_debug_post_parse_hook,415
 - Verbose debugging 1 (on console 1)
TI:19:01:07	FI:up-main.c	FN:up_main_acquire_name_on_proxy,83
 - Failed to acquire org.freedesktop.UPower
TI:19:01:07	FI:up-main.c	FN:main,175
 - Could not acquire name; bailing out
[root@Blackpearl experiments]# /usr/libexec/upowerd --verbose
TI:19:01:15	FI:egg-debug.c	FN:egg_debug_post_parse_hook,415
 - Verbose debugging 1 (on console 1)
TI:19:01:15	FI:up-main.c	FN:up_main_acquire_name_on_proxy,83
 - Failed to acquire org.freedesktop.UPower
TI:19:01:15	FI:up-main.c	FN:main,175
 - Could not acquire name; bailing out

If anyone can help me fix this, I can try again and get the output. Thanks.

-Dilip.

(In reply to comment #13)
> If anyone can help me fix this, I can try again and get the output. Thanks.

You need to do "killall upowerd" first.

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upowerd --verbose log

I see the same thing on F14 too. Sometimes it manages to calculate the correct battery time remaining prior to shutting down / hibernating.

Attached is my upowerd --verbose log before it hibernates.

Seeing this here on an Atom tablet (presumably the same as Bug 609081?), under Fedora 15 beta. Any progress on getting this fixed (aside from working around it with gconf settings)? Is there any info I can provide for my hardware?

OK: In my case, I believe this to be a BIOS issue, specifically the "negative s16 current" issue found on some Acer notebooks and addressed in Kernel bug 13687 (see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13687 ). To test this, I modified driver/acpi/battery.c in the kernel source. Somewhere in it, there's a function


static void acpi_battery_quirks(struct acpi_battery *battery)
{
  if (dmi_name_in_vendors("Acer") && battery->power_unit) {
		set_bit(ACPI_BATTERY_QUIRK_SIGNED16_CURRENT, &battery->flags);
	}
}


and commented out 'dmi_name_in_vendors("Acer") &&' in the if(). With *this* kernel running, I no longer get spurious "critically" low messages.

How did I know this? Well, when running on power take a look at /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/current_now. On battery, it shows a reasonable 931000 µA. Now, when AC is plugged in and the battery is charging ON A STOCK KERNEL, this value changes to 65336000 µA (if I recall the number correctly). This is clearly ludicrous, and is called by bad handling of a 16-bit current register. Maybe what's happening in this case is, when the AC is unplugged, g-p-m is using this high current to estimate remaining time (i.e., 3 minutes).

On a modified kernel, current_now is somewhat more sedate with AC attached (some 200000 µA); I presume this is the charging current.

I am going to report a new bug against kernel (both here and at kernel.org) documenting this. Seems the quirk needs broadening.

For gnome-power-manager:

 - Perhaps g-p-m could add a current plausibility check and warn the user
   that their BIOS is having a laugh?

 - Sometimes I now get ludicrously long battery life estimates (e.g. 15h) as
   AC is unplugged. This seems consistent with g-p-m using the value of
   current_now (i.e., charging current) to estimate usage. I suggest g-p-m
   waits a few seconds for things to settle when on battery power before
   taking a reading of current_now and making an estimate.

I have a Dell Mini 10; with my laptop plugged in, I get:

[cozzy@cozzy-nb ~]$ cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/current_now 
37168000

Which seems to actually be the power (~37 W). 

Anyway, to work around the issue, I set the gconf key
/apps/gnome-power-manager/general/use_time_for_policy to false and it uses a percentage threshold rather than a time threshold, making the point moot. 

-Cosmin

I am not sure if I should open a new bug or not but my scenario is similar on a System 76 Starling Netbook Model star1 using F15.

However, this *only* occurs if I suspend my laptop to RAM while unplugged and plug in the power *while the computer is still suspended*. After that, subsequent attempts to remove the power are met with panicky notifications that the system is about to hibernate ... although it only seems to hibernate prematurely if the battery is fairly drained.

My steps to reproduce:
1) Unplug power from laptop
2) Suspend to RAM
3) Plug power into laptop
4) Wake up from Suspend to RAM
5) Unplug power from laptop

Results: Hibernation warning even though power applet reports high percentage of battery left (94% in my current test case)

Could the original reporter and subsequent confirmers check if this is the specific scenario that they are seeing this as it might point to a specific fix or it might be that this is a separate issue (maybe a bad power drain estimate due to a power supply event missed while suspended ... in which case I will open a separate bug).

Thank you.

Hello Michael.


I tried this on my Acer Aspire One netbook running Fedora 15. My laptop did not produce any hibernation warning.

Here is what happened in my laptop.

1. Plug power into laptop (battery 74%)
2. Unplug power
3. Laptop suspends to RAM by itself
4. Plug power into the laptop
5. Wake up from suspended state
6. Unplug power
7. Laptop suspends to RAM again

This happened every time I tried this. Does anyone else see the same response?


-Dilip

Hello everyone.

I notice that my laptop does not suspend to ram if I unplug the power after switching to a terminal (Alt + Ctrl + F2) on my Fedora 15.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Plug power to laptop
2. Switch to a console terminal (Ctrl + Alt + F2)
3. Unplug power
4. Return to Gnome (Alt + Ctrl + F1 in my Fedora 15)

Results: Does not suspend to RAM.

Is anyone else able to observe the same behaviour or is this just my laptop? 

-Dilip

(In reply to comment #21)
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I notice that my laptop does not suspend to ram if I unplug the power after
> switching to a terminal (Alt + Ctrl + F2) on my Fedora 15.
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1. Plug power to laptop
> 2. Switch to a console terminal (Ctrl + Alt + F2)
> 3. Unplug power
> 4. Return to Gnome (Alt + Ctrl + F1 in my Fedora 15)
> 
> Results: Does not suspend to RAM.
> 
> Is anyone else able to observe the same behaviour or is this just my laptop? 
> 
> -Dilip

I do not see this. My netbook suspends fine after the above process.

It didn't suspend when closing the lid only once ... just yesterday though. I cannot figure out why it didn't that one time. Might have been in some weird state after cycling though those bug-inducing steps from comment 19.

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Created new bug 710226 to track my separate issue that may or may not be related to this one but it is relevant to Fedora 15 and this bug is about to be auto-closed.

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This is still happening with Fedora15. Dell latitude E6320

Bug has returned for me with g-p-m 3.0.2-2.fc15 update, even with kernel patched for correct current. More in this bug's clone.