Bug 514029

Upgrading to F11 broke X entirely, and it no longer seems to like the
X800 doing anything other than single screen output, mirrored on both
screens.

Since this is a work machine, I needed it working ASAP, so I stuck a
new video card in. I now have a GeForce 6200 LE as the primary card
and the X800 GTO as the secondary card.

system-config-display can still find no evidence of a second card
being present in the machine.

New hardware details:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_01481070-5b51-4214-957d-cf6db6fd25b8

So the problem here is as follows. /usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py
instantiates an XConfigDialog with the line:

	dialog = xConfigDialog.XConfigDialog(hardware_state, xconfig, rhpxl.videocard.VideoCardInfo())

However, in /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/rhpxl/videocard.py,
we're explicitly throwing away information about secondary cards:

	# bit of a hack to skip secondary devices.  thanks redmond.
	if path[3] != '0':
		continue

(my pdevs at that point list all three video devices, but those
lines throw away the one associates with my second card). Given
that, I can't see how the secondard card entry in s-c-d can ever
be populated.

That seems to have been a bit of a red herring. Even with those lines
commented out, the "Second Video Card" menu is still empty. This seems
to be because xConfigDialog:hal_pci_video_card_list() is returning an
empty list.

devstrings: dbus.Array([], signature=dbus.Signature('s'))
devs: []

Since this bugzilla report was filed, there have been several major updates in various components of the Xorg system, which may have resolved this issue. Users who have experienced this problem are encouraged to upgrade their system to the latest version of their packages. For packages from updates-testing repository you can use command

yum upgrade --enablerepo='*-updates-testing'

Alternatively, you can also try to test whether this bug is reproducible with the upcoming Fedora 12 distribution by downloading LiveMedia of F12 Beta available at http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ . By using that you get all the latest packages without need to install anything on your computer. For more information on using LiveMedia take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD .

Please, if you experience this problem on the up-to-date system, let us now in the comment for this bug, or whether the upgraded system works for you.

If you won't be able to reply in one month, I will have to close this bug as INSUFFICIENT_DATA. Thank you.

[This is a bulk message for all open Fedora Rawhide Xorg-related bugs. I'm adding myself to the CC list for each bug, so I'll see any comments you make after this and do my best to make sure every issue gets proper attention.]

Sorry, but this is NOT a valid response. Firstly, F11 is still supported. Secondly, the F12 Live CD *doesn't work* (bug 533030, if you're interested),
so there is no way to test whether it's fixed anything. Since this is a
work machine, I rely on it heavily, and can't risk using the updates-testing
upgrade.

If this is closed as INSUFFICIENT_DATA, I will continue to reopen it until
you do something about it.

OK, let me get right ... you are willing to fight with me over reopening, but you are not willing to test, whether it is still reproducible on your system. Do I understand it correctly? Please, re-read comment 4, I am afraid you misunderstood what I've written there.

Please reread comment 5. I would gladly test to see if the updates fixed
the problem. However, as it's a machine that I *need* for work, I can't
do that using updates-testing in case I am left with a machine without a
working X (which FWIW happened when I upgraded to F11). As I see it, the
only other option to test would be to use the Live CD, and as I said, that
doesn't work.

What else do you suggest I do to test this?

I know you're overstretched, and don't have the resources to fix every
reported problem. But to not even look at it, and say that it'll be closed
if the reporter doesn't switch to an unstable system, because there are
numerous changes and they might happen to have fixed this one? What's the
point in called F10 and F11 supported if that's the attitude?

(In reply to comment #7)
> I know you're overstretched, and don't have the resources to fix every
> reported problem. But to not even look at it, and say that it'll be closed
> if the reporter doesn't switch to an unstable system, because there are
> numerous changes and they might happen to have fixed this one? What's the
> point in called F10 and F11 supported if that's the attitude?  

I wouldn't close the bug because you wouldn't "switch to unstable system".

a) for keeping the bug alive, I would need just one line comment saying that you can see it on updated F11 (I would settle on updates, if you don't to do upgrade to updates-testing); moreover, I know pretty well, that there wasn't much churn in xorg packages, so it shouldn't make your system unstable
b) testing on LiveCD was suggested, not required, it would be very helpful for us if we know it has been fixed in Rawhide.

Given that apparently your bug hasn't been fixed yet, I will let this bug open.
Could you please attach your X server config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf, if available), output of the dmesg command, and X server log file (/var/log/Xorg.*.log) to the bug report as individual uncompressed file attachments using the bugzilla file attachment link below?

We will review this issue again once you've had a chance to attach this information.

Thanks in advance.

Created attachment 369072 [details]
dmesg

Created attachment 369073 [details]
Xorg.0.log

Thanks. Sorry if I was being a bit harsh earlier. Probably the result of
having had too many other bugs closed recently, despite them still being
problematic on an up to date F11 system.

FWIW, I don't have an xorg.conf. It seems to work fine without one, and
my attempts to manually create one to get all three monitors working have
not been successful.

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