Bug 537609

# startkde references: xmessage xprop xrandr xrdb xset xsetroot

(In reply to comment #1)
> # startkde references: xmessage xprop xrandr xrdb xset xsetroot  

Of these, only xmessage and xprop come from xorg-x11-utils.

This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 12 development cycle.
Changing version to '12'.

More information and reason for this action is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping

rebase to rawhide(FutureFeature)

Lukas is taking a peek at cleaning up startkde

Well, obviously we can't use KDE stuff before KDE is started up or we'll mess up the startup process.

(In reply to comment #6)
> Well, obviously we can't use KDE stuff before KDE is started up or we'll mess
> up the startup process.  

You could use zenity, but it uses libraries from the "competition" :-)

Well, Qt on UNIX platforms already depends on glib, so it's not a big deal...

Wine no longer depends on xmessage, so kdebase-workspace is the only component left requiring it, along with xorg-x11-apps and all their dependencies.

I'll look at this some more, and consider alternatives such as zenity (or maybe even kdialog), though eww... it's a killer space-wise, ~700k vs ~4m , not sure this is really practical beyond esthestics.

(oh, and kdialog is out, see comment #6 indeed)

on the other hand, we *could* consider xorg-x11-apps a sort of soft dependency, install it by default via comps (or kickstart or whatever), but don't enforce it's presence via hard dependencies... which would allow those who *really* don't want it to have their wish.

I think the point of not using kdialog there is that those messages should be fallbacks if KDE stuff is broken. I'm not convinced zenity is a good idea there either.

%changelog
* Wed Oct 20 2010 Rex Dieter <rdieter> - 4.5.2-4
- kdebase-workspace depends on xorg-x11-apps (#537709)

akonadi-1.4.0-3.fc13,attica-0.1.4-1.fc13,kde-l10n-4.5.2-1.fc13,kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.28.20101011.fc13.2,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-2.fc13,kdeaccessibility-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeadmin-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeartwork-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdebase-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdebase-runtime-4.5.2-3.fc13,kdebase-workspace-4.5.2-3.fc13,kdebindings-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdeedu-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdegames-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdegraphics-4.5.2-4.fc13,kdelibs-4.5.2-7.fc13,kdemultimedia-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdenetwork-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdepimlibs-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdesdk-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdetoys-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeutils-4.5.2-1.fc13,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.2-1.fc13,soprano-2.5.2-1.fc13 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 13.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/akonadi-1.4.0-3.fc13,attica-0.1.4-1.fc13,kde-l10n-4.5.2-1.fc13,kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.28.20101011.fc13.2,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-2.fc13,kdeaccessibility-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeadmin-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeartwork-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdebase-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdebase-runtime-4.5.2-3.fc13,kdebase-workspace-4.5.2-3.fc13,kdebindings-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdeedu-4.5.2-2.fc13,kdegames-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdegraphics-4.5.2-4.fc13,kdelibs-4.5.2-7.fc13,kdemultimedia-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdenetwork-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdepimlibs-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdesdk-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdetoys-4.5.2-1.fc13,kdeutils-4.5.2-1.fc13,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.2-1.fc13,soprano-2.5.2-1.fc13

akonadi-1.4.0-3.fc13, attica-0.1.4-1.fc13, kde-l10n-4.5.2-1.fc13, kde-plasma-networkmanagement-0.9-0.28.20101011.fc13.2, kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-2.fc13, kdeaccessibility-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdeadmin-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdeartwork-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdebase-4.5.2-2.fc13, kdebase-runtime-4.5.2-3.fc13, kdebase-workspace-4.5.2-3.fc13, kdebindings-4.5.2-2.fc13, kdeedu-4.5.2-2.fc13, kdegames-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdegraphics-4.5.2-4.fc13, kdemultimedia-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdenetwork-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdepimlibs-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdeplasma-addons-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdesdk-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdetoys-4.5.2-1.fc13, kdeutils-4.5.2-1.fc13, oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.2-1.fc13, soprano-2.5.2-1.fc13, kphotoalbum-4.1.1-6.fc13, themonospot-gui-qt-0.1.3-7.fc13, kcm-gtk-0.5.3-5.fc13, kcm_touchpad-0.3.1-3.fc13, kdebase3-3.5.10-17.fc13, digikam-1.5.0-1.fc13.1, kdelibs-4.5.2-8.fc13 has been pushed to the Fedora 13 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

This was fixed in 4.5.2-4, the update set that was pushed included 4.5.2-3.

akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc14,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc14,kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdegames-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc14,kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc14,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc14,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc14,kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdegames-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc14,kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc14,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc14

akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc13,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc13,kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdegames-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc13,kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc13,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc13 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 13.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc13,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc13,kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdegames-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc13,kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc13,kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc13,kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc13,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc13

kdegames-4.5.3-2.fc14, akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc14, kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc14, kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc14, kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc14, oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc14, kde-l10n-4.5.3-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 testing repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update kdegames akonadi kde-plasma-yawp kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebindings kdeedu kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepimlibs kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils oxygen-icon-theme kde-l10n'.  You can provide feedback for this update here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc14,kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc14,kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdegames-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc14,kdepimlibs-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc14,kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc14,kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc14,oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc14,kde-l10n-4.5.3-1.fc14

kdegames-4.5.3-3.fc14, kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-3.fc14, kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-3.fc14, kdepimlibs-4.5.3-2.fc14, akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc14, kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc14, kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc14, kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc14, kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc14, kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc14, oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc14, kde-l10n-4.5.3-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fedora 14 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

kdebase-workspace-4.5.3-3.fc13, akonadi-1.4.1-2.fc13, kde-plasma-yawp-0.3.5-4.fc13, kdeaccessibility-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdeadmin-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdeartwork-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdebase-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdebindings-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdeedu-4.5.3-2.fc13, kdegraphics-4.5.3-2.fc13, kdelibs-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdemultimedia-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdenetwork-4.5.3-2.fc13, kdeplasma-addons-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdesdk-4.5.3-3.fc13, kdetoys-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdeutils-4.5.3-1.fc13, oxygen-icon-theme-4.5.3-1.fc13, kde-l10n-4.5.3-1.fc13, kdegames-4.5.3-3.fc13, kdebase-runtime-4.5.3-3.fc13, kdepimlibs-4.5.3-2.fc13 has been pushed to the Fedora 13 stable repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.