Bug 556691

Please link to or attach an example of the actual XML you are using.

Cheers, Jeff.

Created attachment 385551 [details]
A file that includes the code which isn't being rendered correctly

Do a search for the <textobject> tag and that's the part that should show up as the tooltip but instead the chapter title does.

(In reply to comment #0)
> the textobject text should be displayed to the user as the alt text. This is
> important for blind readers

The tool tip text is not generated from the the alt attribute, it is generated from the title attribute.

The alt text is set correctly and there is no affect on accessibility for blind readers.

The other use in DocBook for the textobject is to display the text below the image, as shown at http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/imageobject.html, this is controlled by enabling html.longdesc in the XSL. We turned this off a ling time ago because people didn't like it.

You will need to discuss html.longdesc on the list if you want it changed.

You will need to discuss setting the title attribute on the image if you want that changed.

The browser is displaying the chapter title as the tool tip because there is no title attribute for the image and your browser is defaulting to the title for the containing object. This behavior probably differs between browsers.

Cheers, Jeff.

Hey Jeff, 

I know I'm confused so I was wondering if you could help me understand a bit better (because I am having an issue with the alt tag stuff in maven but for different reasons and understanding more might help me solve both the maven and publican issue on my end).

This is the figure information that is in the file that is attached:

<figure id="figu-Beginners_Guide-Visual_Web_Tools-Visual_Page_Editor">
	<title>Visual Page Editor</title> 
	<mediaobject>
		<imageobject>
			<imagedata fileref="images/figu-Beginners_Guide-Visual_Web_Tools-Visual_Page_Editor.png" format="PNG" width="444" />
		</imageobject>
		<textobject>
			<phrase>
				The Visual Page Editor, showing both the source and a visual preview simultaneously.
			</phrase>
		</textobject>
	</mediaobject>
</figure>

To me it looks like the title attribute for the image is set, is there a different title attribute I should be looking in to?

Thanks, 

Isaac

(In reply to comment #4)
> Hey Jeff, 
> 
> I know I'm confused so I was wondering if you could help me understand a bit
> better (because I am having an issue with the alt tag stuff in maven but for
> different reasons and understanding more might help me solve both the maven and
> publican issue on my end).
> 
> This is the figure information that is in the file that is attached:
> 
> <figure id="figu-Beginners_Guide-Visual_Web_Tools-Visual_Page_Editor">
>  <title>Visual Page Editor</title> 
>  <mediaobject>
>   <imageobject>
>    <imagedata
> fileref="images/figu-Beginners_Guide-Visual_Web_Tools-Visual_Page_Editor.png"
> format="PNG" width="444" />
>   </imageobject>
>   <textobject>
>    <phrase>
>     The Visual Page Editor, showing both the source and a visual preview
> simultaneously.
>    </phrase>
>   </textobject>
>  </mediaobject>
> </figure>
> 
> To me it looks like the title attribute for the image is set, is there a
> different title attribute I should be looking in to?

Hi Isaac, if you check the HTML output you will see that it contains something like:

<img src="images/figu-Beginners_Guide-Visual_Web_Tools-Visual_Page_Editor.png" alt="The Visual Page Editor, showing both the source and a visual preview simultaneously." width="444">

The IMG alt tag is set correctly. If you disable images this alt text will be displayed. If you use a reader for the blind this text will be spoken.

The display you are talking about is not alt text, it is tool tip text. The tool tip text would need to be set by adding another attribute, title, to the IMG output. Basically the display you are talking about would require duplicating the content of alt in the title attribute.

There is nothing in the DocBook XSL to set the title attribute in the IMG tag, so we'd have to add this functionality.

Cheers, Jeff.

Ah! The lightbulb goes on....

Thanks for the explanation in n00b terms ;)

Isaac if you want to change the way the tool tip text is displayed, please discuss it on the list and open a new bug with what ever is decided.

Cheers, Jeff.