Bug 588165
Summary: | sendmail should install sendmail-milter as a requirement | ||
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Product: | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 | Reporter: | Uwe Beck <ubeck> |
Component: | sendmail | Assignee: | Jaroslav Škarvada <jskarvad> |
Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | qe-baseos-daemons |
Severity: | medium | Docs Contact: | |
Priority: | low | ||
Version: | 6.0 | CC: | jskarvad |
Target Milestone: | rc | ||
Target Release: | --- | ||
Hardware: | All | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
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Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
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Last Closed: | 2010-05-26 07:46:32 UTC | Type: | --- |
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Description
Uwe Beck
2010-05-02 22:53:55 UTC
This request was evaluated by Red Hat Product Management for inclusion in a Red Hat Enterprise Linux major release. Product Management has requested further review of this request by Red Hat Engineering, for potential inclusion in a Red Hat Enterprise Linux Major release. This request is not yet committed for inclusion. What do you use as a milter? The idea here is that a milter (filtering application) should install sendmail-milter as dependency. Also if you would like to use milter API on your own, the sendmail-devel installs the sendmail-milter for you. AFAIK there is no supported milter (filtering application) in the RHEL-6 repo, thus the sendmail-milter lands in optional repo. Also the idea of sub-packaging is that most of users don't need milter in basic installation. And the proposed explicit requires drops the advantage of sub-packaging. I am not aware of better way how to accomplish sendmail/milter sub-packaging. (In reply to comment #3) > What do you use as a milter? clamav-milter, dkim-milter, spamass-milter, smf-sav > The idea here is that a milter (filtering application) should install > sendmail-milter as dependency. At this time no milter rpm I know use sendmail-milter as dependency because libmilter is part of sendmail rpm while sendmail knows the MILTER API. clamav-milter Requires: clamd Requires: sendmail dkim-milter Requires: sendmail spamass-milter Requires: sendmail Requires: spamassassin smf-sav Requires: sendmail > Also if you would like to use milter API on your own, the sendmail-devel > installs the sendmail-milter for you. Please make a difference between a system on which you build a milter rpm and a system you will install the binary rpm to use the milter. Only the system for build the rpm needs the sendmail-devel rpm. The user see that your sendmail rpm was compiled with MILTER API (output from "sendmail -d0 < /dev/null"). This means for him that a milter can use the API. If there should not be so then the output should not contain MILTER. But if you compile sendmail without MILTER option libmilter will not build. At this time an upgrade to RHEL6 will work. But after the upgrade no milter will work because libmilter is not longer part of sendmail and libmilter is part of sendmail rpm while sendmail knows the MILTER API. Really a bad situation, because the RHEL6 sendmail rpm will not install the sendmail-milter rpm as a dependency for you. > AFAIK there is no supported milter (filtering application) in the RHEL-6 > repo, thus the sendmail-milter lands in optional repo. ok > Also the idea of sub-packaging is that most of users don't need milter in > basic installation. Does this mean that Red Hat do not want to support sendmail MILTER API at RHEL6? It doesn't make sense. I do not see the sub-package requirement for one library which provides a basic sendmail API. If you which for future that milters should have: Requries: sendmail-milter than use: Provides: sendmail-milter at sendmail.spec file for the sendmail rpm and drop sendmail-milter rpm. > clamav-milter, dkim-milter, spamass-milter, smf-sav It looks you use software from unsupported repo. > At this time no milter rpm I know use sendmail-milter as dependency because > libmilter is part of sendmail rpm while sendmail knows the MILTER API. All milter packages from rawhide (origin of RHEL-6 packages) and all packages from derivative repos honour it as dependency. The dependency is satisfied by RPM auto-dependency: $ repoquery ---disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=rawhide -whatprovides 'libmilter.so*' sendmail-milter-0:8.14.4-4.fc14.x86_64 sendmail-milter-0:8.14.4-4.fc14.i686 $ repoquery --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=rawhide --whatrequires 'libmilter.so*' sendmail-devel-0:8.14.4-4.fc14.x86_64 sendmail-devel-0:8.14.4-4.fc14.i686 dkim-milter-0:2.8.3-7.fc14.x86_64 spamass-milter-0:0.3.1-19.fc14.x86_64 clamav-milter-0:0.96-1402.fc14.x86_64 milter-regex-0:1.7-6.fc12.x86_64 milter-greylist-0:4.2.4-1400.fc14.x86_64 mimedefang-0:2.68-1.fc14.x86_64 > The user see that your sendmail rpm was compiled with MILTER API (output from > "sendmail -d0 < /dev/null"). This means for him that a milter can use the API. > If there should not be so then the output should not contain MILTER. > But if you compile sendmail without MILTER option libmilter will not build. Yes, it is not optimal, but I am not aware of better way, how to do the modularization. Also the sendmail-milter is there for a long time thus more complex changes would be painfull. > At this time an upgrade to RHEL6 will work. But after the upgrade no milter > will work because libmilter is not longer part of sendmail and libmilter is > part of sendmail rpm while sendmail knows the MILTER API. Really a bad > situation, because the RHEL6 sendmail rpm will not install the sendmail-milter > rpm as a dependency for you. Upgrade is not officially supported. The only official way is reinstall. Also no milter (filtering application) is shipped with RHEL-6, thus you are here on your own. > Does this mean that Red Hat do not want to support sendmail MILTER API at > RHEL6? It doesn't make sense. I didn't write so. That's why there is the sendmail-milter in the optional repo. If you need a milter you can try compatible (unsupported) repo and the sendmail-milter will be installed as auto-dependency. And in all other cases you can always install sendmail-milter manually. > I do not see the sub-package requirement for one library which provides a > basic sendmail API. The sendmail-milter exists for a long time (according to changelog this change was done in 2001) - I am not aware of details. Also the explicit "requires" would render the sendmail-milter modularization useless, but it could be done. If this is critical for you, please contact http://redhat.com/support (In reply to comment #5) > It looks you use software from unsupported repo. All rpms outside RHEL RHN channels are unsupported by Red Hat. > If you need a milter you can try compatible (unsupported) repo and the > sendmail-milter will be installed as auto-dependency. And in all other cases > you can always install sendmail-milter manually. I know about the change for sendmail MILTER API at RHEL6 now. I can modify it on my used milters. It would be good to have an information at RHEL6 release notes for this change. (In reply to comment #5) > > It looks you use software from unsupported repo. All rpms outside RHN channels are unsupported by Red Hat. > If you need a milter you can try compatible (unsupported) repo and the > sendmail-milter will be installed as auto-dependency. And in all other cases > you can always install sendmail-milter manually. I know now about sendmail MILTER API change at RHEL6 and can modify SPEC files. It would be good to have an information about this change at RHEL6 release notes. |