| Summary: | PackageKit needs to display more technical information when in action | ||
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| Product: | [Fedora] Fedora | Reporter: | DJ <djzn.br> |
| Component: | PackageKit | Assignee: | Richard Hughes <rhughes> |
| Status: | CLOSED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa> |
| Severity: | low | Docs Contact: | |
| Priority: | unspecified | ||
| Version: | 14 | CC: | jonathan, rhughes, smparrish, ugo.viti |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Target Release: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
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| Fixed In Version: | Doc Type: | Bug Fix | |
| Doc Text: | Story Points: | --- | |
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| Last Closed: | 2012-08-16 15:16:59 UTC | Type: | --- |
| Regression: | --- | Mount Type: | --- |
| Documentation: | --- | CRM: | |
| Verified Versions: | Category: | --- | |
| oVirt Team: | --- | RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host: | |
| Cloudforms Team: | --- | Target Upstream Version: | |
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Created attachment 487408 [details]
In this mockup, we can see the current package being installed.
Created attachment 487409 [details]
In this mockup, we see dependencies being resolved, and technical info below the progress bar.
It's perfectly possible to add the additional information, but my main question is why we want to show such low level information in a high level UI? I'm always designing PackageKit for these users; http://www.packagekit.org/pk-profiles.html and I'm not sure what they would benefit from showing which file is being depsolved. Hi Richard, well I have read the reason why "technical info shouldn't bother users" when installing packages and I understand that point of view. While it's perfectly fine to design such thing for common users, I believe that skilled users shouldn't be left in the dark. I myself don't fit in any of the profiles you have showed me, and the suggestion I made can really make PackageKit better. I can give you a couple of arguments: a) Download speed: For many times now I had the progress bar completely stuck on me, for God knows whatever reason, because I am unable to decipher beyond the progress bar itself. If there were some information displaying the download speed went down to 10 KB/s I would probably know that the current mirror/repository is suffering from speed issues. That would help me to cancel the operation faster and try another time, than just wait 20 minutes to realize the progress bar got really stuck. b) Package name: Knowing the name of the current package being downloaded can also help to see what is exactly being downloaded at that moment. While I understand it can be of no help for the common user, I can also understand that skilled users like to know what is being fetched, and what particular time will be spent on downloading that package (now I realize I forgot to include package file size download in the mockup). c) Time Left for download: Well, this is some useful information as it can give me the actual time so I can calculate, leave the computer, make some coffee or tea with peace of mind, and get back in the right time. (Time left only for download, not installing packages). d) Location: Location from where is being fetched is also important I think. It's good to know what you actually get from Fedora official repo, and what you don't, since we have RPMFusion, etc. Again, not much good for the users, but if I had a problem with a certain package, that would remind me that it might not be from any official source. e) Other two mini window mockups, well, while it can't help the common user, it couldn't hurt either, and that way everyone is happy. f) Last reason is that, we should have this. Ubuntu is a distro targeted at beginners, but even like that they did not leave these kind of information in their "Update Manager". (However, they started to migrate some of the stand alone installation to Software Center and that sucked a little because that info was removed). Hope this helps. ERRATA: did not leave these kind of information should read "leave out". Just want to add another suggestion, like a button to toggle "Advanced View". Clicking on that button would show up all this information. While leaving it alone, would just be the way users want, not bothered at all. That button can be placed near "Help" button. I definitely agree with DJ, the download speed and remaining time is very usefull to display, because too often the progress bar stuck and there isn't a easy way to understand if packagekit is working or not. solution? open a terminal, and use yum... this isn't a solution not for beginner user and not for the power user. please make us happy adding an [+] option under the progress bar to display technical details of the download :) example: Percent completion: 23 % Package count: 14/23 Total process ETA: 01:23:00 Current package name: Firefox 7.1 Current package ETA: 00:14:13 Download speed: 230 KB/Sec This message is a notice that Fedora 14 is now at end of life. 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Created attachment 487407 [details] In this mockup we see 4 added lines of information: package name being downloaded, download speed, time left and local from where it's being fetched. PackageKit does not display ongoing information, but only a progress bar. Information like download speed, location from fetching, and estimated left time should be available for user to see on main software management application as well as when installing stand-alone RPM packages. Screenshots included for suggestion.