Bug 694704

Updating for dependencies:
[...]
 perl-version                noarch     3:0.82-142.fc14       updates      51 k
 perl-version                x86_64     3:0.88-1.fc14         updates      67 k

This is nonsense as the packages have the same name and are not in multi-lib relation. That means one must supersede another and yum/rpm is expected to install perl-version-3:0.88-1.fc14.x86_64 and uninstall perl-version-3:0.82-142.fc14.noarch in one upgrade transaction.

This really is nonsense. I suspect the "output from the console" has been "photoshopped".

Notice here that "perl-version-3:0.88-1.fc14.x86_64" simply appears out of context in the middle of a line:
> --> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14
> fperl-version-3:0.88-1.fc14.x86_64or package:

And again, "perl-version-3:0.88-1.fc14.x86_64" is just dumped in the middle of another message:
> ---> Package perl-Test-Harness.noarch
> 0:3.17-142.fc1perl-version-3:0.88-1.fc14.x86_644 set to be updated

And while we're at it, when does yum ever use "n-e:v-r.a" format? (that sounds like repoquery). With yum, it's always "e:n-v-r.a" or "n.a e:v-r", isn't it?

without wishing to cast aspersions, it also seems awfully convenient that this appears right after bug #633775 sprang up again after 10 weeks with no comment.

I agree with you Iain. I've tested (again) update from noarch perl-version to arch version and yum can handle it. 

I suppose we can close it and don't drag more people into this.

Keith: for such "jokes" were already bugzilla accounts closed.

Wow. You people really are obnoxious.  Just because you can't replicate something you consider it "a joke" or "photoshopped"?! I hope you're proud of yourselves.

I had exactly the same error today trying to "yum install 389-ds" ; it failed due to the mismatch between "perl-version.noarch" and "perl-version.x86_64".  Trying "yum update perl" also failed for the same reason.  The only way I was able to get it to work was to explicitly update perl-version, which installed the x86_64 version instead of the noarch, and also updated perl.  Then I was able to install 389-ds.

There is obviously something amiss in the packaging that yum can't determine to replace the noarch with the arch version except as a direct update.

I hope this helps someone else, even if you're not prepared to accept this as a legitimate bug.

(In reply to comment #4)
> Wow. You people really are obnoxious.  

Thanks!

> Just because you can't replicate
> something you consider it "a joke" or "photoshopped"?! I hope you're proud of
> yourselves.

No. I considered it to be "photoshopped" for the reasons I gave - the output presented simply wasn't credible.
 
> I had exactly the same error today trying to "yum install 389-ds" ; it failed
> due to the mismatch between "perl-version.noarch" and "perl-version.x86_64". 
> Trying "yum update perl" also failed for the same reason.  The only way I was
> able to get it to work was to explicitly update perl-version, which installed
> the x86_64 version instead of the noarch, and also updated perl.  Then I was
> able to install 389-ds.

This was enough to suggest a likely scenario, and without being distracted by incredible evidence, I gave it a shot:

Start with a clean, minimal f14 installation with no updates.

"yum --disablerepo updates install perl-version" and you get 3:perl-version-0.82-136.fc14.noarch installed (as you would have done prior to February when 3:perl-version-0.88-1.fc14.x86_64 was released).

Then, you can run into difficulties when selectively updating/installing:

# yum update perl
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: perl(threads::shared) for package: 4:perl-5.12.3-143.fc14.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl(threads::shared) >= 1.21 for package: 4:perl-5.12.3-143.fc14.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14 for package: 1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-136.fc14.noarch
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14 for package: 1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-136.fc14.noarch
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14 for package: 4:perl-libs-5.12.2-136.fc14.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14 for package: 1:perl-Pod-Simple-3.13-136.fc14.noarch
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.12.2-136.fc14 for package: 3:perl-version-0.82-136.fc14.noarch
---> Package perl.x86_64 4:5.12.3-143.fc14 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package perl-Module-Pluggable.noarch 1:3.90-143.fc14 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Pod-Escapes.noarch 1:1.04-143.fc14 set to be updated
---> Package perl-Pod-Simple.noarch 1:3.13-143.fc14 set to be updated
---> Package perl-libs.x86_64 4:5.12.3-143.fc14 set to be updated
---> Package perl-threads-shared.x86_64 0:1.32-143.fc14 set to be installed
---> Package perl-version.noarch 3:0.82-143.fc14 set to be updated
---> Package perl-version.x86_64 3:0.88-2.fc14 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package                   Arch       Version                 Repository   Size
================================================================================
Updating:
 perl                      x86_64     4:5.12.3-143.fc14       updates      11 M
Installing for dependencies:
 perl-threads-shared       x86_64     1.32-143.fc14           updates      51 k
Updating for dependencies:
 perl-Module-Pluggable     noarch     1:3.90-143.fc14         updates      38 k
 perl-Pod-Escapes          noarch     1:1.04-143.fc14         updates      31 k
 perl-Pod-Simple           noarch     1:3.13-143.fc14         updates     211 k
 perl-libs                 x86_64     4:5.12.3-143.fc14       updates     594 k
 perl-version              noarch     3:0.82-143.fc14         updates      51 k
 perl-version              x86_64     3:0.88-2.fc14           updates      67 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install       1 Package(s)
Upgrade       7 Package(s)


As you've found, though, the workaround is simply a matter of explicitly including perl-version in any yum update, or probably even better, simply run "yum update" to update everything rather than specific individual packages.

> There is obviously something amiss in the packaging that yum can't determine to
> replace the noarch with the arch version except as a direct update.

I think the bug actually lies in yum thinking that it's okay to install both noarch and arch at the same time. And it seems to me that this has now been fixed with yum-3.2.29 in f15. At least, attempting to force the issue by running "yum install perl-version.x86_64 perl-version.noarch" now fails earlier on f15 with "Error: Protected multilib versions: 3:perl-version-0.82-157.fc15.noarch != 3:perl-version-0.88-3.fc15.x86_64"; on f14, the same command will also try to install both versions and fail later with file conflicts.

> I hope this helps someone else, even if you're not prepared to accept this as a
> legitimate bug.

There really is a bug - but I'm not sure what we can do about it. If the problem lies with yum, then even releasing an updated version of yum for f14 won't help unless you actually install it before trying to selectively update perl or install something that's going to pull in newer perl-version. (Maybe explicitly obsoleting or conflicting "perl-version < 3:0.88-2.fc14" in the arch package will help. Will try it and see).

And finally, apologies to Keith. I guess I should eat my words and accept that your misleading output was nothing more than a simple copy/paste mix up rather than a deliberate attempt to deceive.

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