Bug 753605

Summary:	Gnome shell and older cards
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	G. Michael Carter <mikey>
Component:	gnome-shell	Assignee:	Owen Taylor <otaylor>
Status:	CLOSED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
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Priority:	unspecified
Version:	16	CC:	browning48ky, maxamillion, otaylor, samkraju, walters
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Description G. Michael Carter 2011-11-13 17:59:33 UTC

It used to be with Gnome 2 you could pop Fedora into pretty much any computer and it worked out of the box.   With Gnome 3 50% of my computers don't work and either need a graphics card upgrade or, in the case of laptops, need something other than Gnome 3.  (KDE or LXDE or XFCE)

There's two situations where I could see the possibility for some improvement here.

1.  Fall-Back mode:   Fall-back says something went wrong.  Would be nice to explain on screen that your graphics card can't handle Gnome 3 and recommend upgrading or using KDE or LXDE or XFCE.   I watch a windows user put the Fedora CD in their computer, get fall back and abandon Fedora.  The user didn't really understand that there were other options.   

2.  Cards with bad drivers:  nouveau with GeForce 7025 goes into fall back mode... but with nvidia drivers it runs Gnome 3 with lots of quarks.   I have a computer using ATI Radeon RV250 which does the same thing.   These graphics cards don't have what's needed for Gnome 3 to work properly but a new user isn't going to know this.  They will pop in a CD and think Fedora is broken.   Might be nice to carry a list of known cards not to work and let the user know some how.  Maybe a warning with recommendations for KDE or LXDE or XFCE?

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