Bug 77005

Summary: RFE: Alternatives system for RPM packets
Product: [Retired] Red Hat Linux Reporter: Petri T. Koistinen <thoron>
Component: compsAssignee: Tim Powers <timp>
Status: CLOSED NOTABUG QA Contact: Brock Organ <borgan>
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Description Petri T. Koistinen 2002-10-30 20:56:42 UTC
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Description of problem:
I want to use Postfix, I don't want to use Sendmail. Why can't I just install
Postfix and leave Sendmail uninstalled.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Run RH 8.0 installation from CD.
2. Configure setup.
3. Select Postfix.


Actual Results:  Sendmail installed per default.

Expected Results:  No sendmail, if I only want Postfix.

Additional info:

Comment 1 Tim Powers 2002-11-08 18:14:56 UTC
This is because sendmail is in the base component for the installation. You may
be able to unselect sendmail in the individual package selection screens.


Comment 2 Petri T. Koistinen 2002-11-08 18:48:03 UTC
Why Sendmail is a base component?

Comment 3 Tim Powers 2002-11-08 19:03:46 UTC
It's in the base component because it's generally a good idea to allow the
machine to send mail. We had to choose something as the default, and because
postfix was only recently added to Red Hat Linux we chose sendmail to be the

Again, you should be able to unselect sendmail in the individual package
selection screen.


Comment 4 Petri T. Koistinen 2002-11-08 19:47:31 UTC
OK. I hope Postfix will be the default someday. Personaly I don't even bother to
learn how to use Sendmail. I find Postfix much easier to use.

So you don't have option in your configuration system which says:

- System must have mail transport agent
- Postfix provides mta
- Sendmail provides mta

Choose what you want, but make sure there is mta. You know, this is kind of
Debian way of thinking, I think.

Comment 5 Tim Powers 2002-11-08 20:41:10 UTC
We already do that. Both sendmail and postfix Provide: smtpdaemon.

Also, adding an option to the install to select which daemon you want for every
installation is probably not going to happen since we are actually trying to
simplify things. 

Like I said before, you can unselect sendmail in the individual package selection.


Comment 6 Petri T. Koistinen 2002-11-10 11:49:41 UTC
OK, sorry. I will not reopen this bug again. Still, I feel that Postfix is
simple to use for beginners as well as professionals. I hope that Postfix and
Sendmail could switch places as Red Hat's installation defaults in future.

Yes, I know that I can unselect sendmail in individual package selection, but
how many of new users want to mess around with it. Installing Red Hat Linux is
already scary enough experience. (Well, don't worry, it's getting less scary
with each new major release, if you keep up the good work.)

You are correct, it's probably no the time yet. Thanks for being forbearing
towards me and thanks for your time.


P.S. GUI for Postfix configuration could be overkill, it's quite simple even
without it. On the other hand would it hurt anyone... I don't know.