Bug 80564

Summary: RFE: Use the availability of "mwm" and/or "twm" in GDM
Product: [Retired] Red Hat Public Beta Reporter: Peter van Egdom <p.van.egdom>
Component: gdmAssignee: Havoc Pennington <hp>
Status: CLOSED NOTABUG QA Contact: Mike McLean <mikem>
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Description Peter van Egdom 2002-12-27 22:36:15 UTC
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Description of problem:
As it seems that the low-memory-using WindowMaker is deprecitated from Red Hat
Linux release 8.0.92 (Phoebe) and future releases (I hope I'm wrong), I want to
make the following suggestion.

I have a 64 MB HP Vectra workstation at my work at my disposable. This
workstation has been running RH 7.3 for quite a while. This morning I installed
RH 8.0.92 on it and came to the  conclusion that for decently working with the
current KDE and GNOME _at least_ 128 MB is required for normal usage.

.... Luckely I had an alternative - the 'Failsafe' option from GDM.

This in combination with "twm" (which is always installed with X if I'm correct)
or "mwm" gives a light-weight working environment for the user on a older

Here's my proposal :

Could it be possible to include the following entries as new Sessions to choose
from (defined in the directory /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions).


The entries could be part of the corresponding packages so that they are only
visible when the corresponding packages are installed.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install RH 8.0.92 on a low-end machine.
2. Come to the conclusion that both KDE and GNOME aren't very fast under the
3.type "twm" or "mwm" in a Failsafe session.

Actual Results: 
 As better-than-nothing alternatives for Window Maker "twm" and "mwm" are
(if WindowMaker is really depricated).

Expected Results:  
- WindowMaker
 should have entries in the Sessions menu.

Additional info:

Comment 1 Havoc Pennington 2003-01-02 22:27:56 UTC
The way to use these setups is to create a ~/.Xclients that runs them, 
then use the "Default" session ("Default" means ".Xclients if present", 

They require some technical skill to use so people should have to 
use the command line to enable them.

You can also of course trivially drop new session scripts into
/etc/X11/whereverit is.