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|Summary:||Bad spacing in Liberation Mono with BCI-hinting|
|Product:||[Fedora] Fedora||Reporter:||Markus <xously>|
|Component:||liberation-fonts||Assignee:||Pravin Satpute <psatpute>|
|Status:||CLOSED EOL||QA Contact:||Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>|
|Version:||19||CC:||arekm, fonts-bugs, i18n-bugs, jreznik, kevin, ltinkl, petersen, psatpute, rdieter, rnovacek, smparrish, tagoh, than|
|Fixed In Version:||Doc Type:||Bug Fix|
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|Last Closed:||2015-02-18 08:44:56 EST||Type:||Bug|
|oVirt Team:||---||RHEL 7.3 requirements from Atomic Host:|
Description Markus 2012-07-24 05:08:16 EDT
Created attachment 599962 [details] Spacing of "s" Description of problem: Applies to Liberation Mono with BCI-hinting. "s" is too far to the right or left, depending on the font size. E.g. "users" looks like "user s" at size 11. (See first attachment for font sizes 8-16.) "ow" is merging in bold font, at least at size 11. E.g. in "downloads". (See second attachment.) Version-Release number of selected component: 2.00.0 How reproducible: Always with this ".fonts.conf": <?xml version="1.0"?> <!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd"> <fontconfig> <match target="font"> <edit name="antialias" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> </match> <match target="font"> <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> </match> <match target="font"> <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"> <const>hintfull</const> </edit> </match> <match target="font"> <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"> <const>rgb</const> </edit> </match> <match target="font"> <edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"> <const>lcddefault</const> </edit> </match> </fontconfig> With auto-hinting enabled instead, these problems do not occur: <match target="pattern" name="family"> <test name="family" qual="any"> <string>Liberation Mono</string> </test> <edit name="autohint" mode="assign"> <bool>true</bool> </edit> </match>
Comment 2 Pravin Satpute 2012-07-24 05:27:25 EDT
"ftstring -r 96 -m users ppem 200 LiberationMono-Regular.ttf" gives me different results. i.e. when we enable auto-hinting i can see more space and with enabling glyph level hinting is gives proper results.
Comment 3 Akira TAGOH 2012-07-24 06:14:34 EDT
Looking at the gasp table, Liberation Mono seems not supposed to use: * the grid-fitting for <= 8 ppem * the anti-aliasing for 8 > x <= 17 ppem but with the grid-fitting So how about enabling auto-hinting for the above size then? <match target="font"> <test name="family" ignore-blanks="true"><string>Liberation Mono</string></test> <edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit> <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit> </match> <match target="font"> <test name="family" ignore-blanks="true"><string>Liberation Mono</string></test> <test name="pixelsize" compare="less_eq"><double>17</double></test> <test name="pixelsize" compare="more"><double>8</double></test> <edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit> <edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit> </match>
Comment 4 Pravin Satpute 2012-07-30 06:26:30 EDT
Thanks Tagoh for this configuration. :) Markus, i have built liberation with this configuration in rawhide, does it helps?
Comment 5 Markus 2012-07-30 12:05:16 EDT
I no longer see any bad spacing using my posted fonts.conf with or without the configuration changes posted by Tagoh. Why that is, I really don't know as I can't think of any relevant changes I have consciously made since. I, again, used LibreOffice which I restarted after changing fonts.conf to create two new screenshots.
Comment 6 Markus 2012-07-30 12:07:05 EDT
Created attachment 601305 [details] Same config, without changes
Comment 7 Markus 2012-07-30 12:07:42 EDT
Created attachment 601307 [details] Same config, with changes
Comment 8 Akira TAGOH 2012-07-30 21:43:21 EDT
Comment 9 Markus 2012-07-31 03:48:07 EDT
Does not seem to be the case. I still have version 2.00.0 which I installed 2012-07-22.
Comment 10 Pravin Satpute 2012-07-31 06:27:38 EDT
ohh, surprising!! please try once with update rpm as well, it has customized .conf file as said above.
Comment 11 Pravin Satpute 2012-09-12 08:08:12 EDT
Created attachment 612078 [details] screenshot of "users download" with Liberation Mono font Without applied patch in 2.00.0-1 for Liberation Mono fonts, "users" and "download" rendering correctly.
Comment 12 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-17 11:10:56 EDT
Under KDE konsole when writting bunch of "ddddddddd" I'm getting very bad spacing, too (with liberation 2.0; in latest 1.7 there is no such problem). Not sure if this is exactly the same issue though.
Comment 13 Pravin Satpute 2012-09-18 06:41:39 EDT
Can you try with liberation-fonts-2.00.0-2.fc18 once?
Comment 14 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-19 14:40:34 EDT
Created attachment 614523 [details] In reality there is no space between '200' and 'W' but it's rendered like with a space I'm not using FC but tried fonts 2.00 with configs from liberation-fonts-2.00.0-2.fc18 and no longer see the problem with multiple "dddd" in konsole. I also see different problems (serif and mono) in kmail1 and liberation here. See screenshots attached.
Comment 15 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-19 14:41:14 EDT
Created attachment 614524 [details] mono font - some letters are covering other letters
Comment 16 Pravin Satpute 2012-09-20 01:59:22 EDT
This looks like problem of Kerning. Can you provide steps to reproduce? 1. liberation fonts version 2. freetype version 3. application used version 4. Your locale
Comment 17 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-20 02:25:56 EDT
Created attachment 614743 [details] mail viewed in kmail1 liberation fonts 2.00.0 (with the fontconfig config for it the same as in -2.fc18 package) freetype 2.4.10 kmail1 from kde4-pim 220.127.116.11 (yes, old, newer is unusable for me); viewing html mail (attached); changing size of mail window makes the bug appear in different forms (once it's almost ok, changing window to wide - it's visible again etc). Tried to reproduce the same with kwrite (from kde 4.9.1) or libreoffice 18.104.22.168 but was unable to get buggy results. locale pl_PL.UTF-8
Comment 18 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-21 02:44:02 EDT
Looks like this isn't strictly liberation problem. I'm able to reproduce in kmail1 with various different fonts (dejavu, google croscore, vera) when I set to use small font (size less than 11-12). If the liberation font size is 12 then there is no problem.
Comment 19 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz 2012-09-21 03:15:23 EDT
hinting style: none, slight - problem visible. hinting style: medium, full - no problem. Ouh.
Comment 20 Pravin Satpute 2012-09-24 02:56:12 EDT
moving to kdepim
Comment 21 Pravin Satpute 2012-09-24 04:32:23 EDT
Arkadiusz can you open another bug against kdepim? Markus can you reproduce same with updated liberation-fonts?
Comment 22 Markus 2012-10-03 15:40:17 EDT
Pravin, you mean the "users download" spacing issues? Still using 2.00.0 from my distribution's repositories and I'm not sure how I'd quickly be able to test the unreleased/patched version.
Comment 23 Pravin Satpute 2012-10-05 01:31:34 EDT
Created attachment 621936 [details] screenshot of mentioned strings in Fedora 18 liberation-mono-fonts-2.00.1-1.fc18.noarch freetype-2.4.10-2.fc18.x86_64 libreoffice-22.214.171.124-2.fc18.x86_64
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