Bug 84580

Summary: XFree86 Runs poorly on S3 Savage Twister K 32 meg card
Product: [Retired] Red Hat Linux Reporter: Ardashir Motamed <another2>
Component: XFree86Assignee: Mike A. Harris <mharris>
Status: CLOSED RAWHIDE QA Contact: David Lawrence <dkl>
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Description Ardashir Motamed 2003-02-19 05:16:32 UTC
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Description of problem:
okay, I'm running redhat 8.0, X didn't detect the driver for my graphics card 
and it defaulted to VESA driver.  After that I swithed to the savage driver, 
tux racer runs at 3 fps on a 32 meg card.  Quake 3 is too choppy to play.  Both 
worked fine on my previous laptop which had an ATI Rage 8 meg card.

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How reproducible:
Didn't try

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install Redhat on a computer with a S3 Savage 4 Twister Graphics card

Additional info:

Comment 1 Mike Chambers 2003-02-19 05:21:31 UTC
Try filling out the rest of the bug report, with results and expected results. 
Also attach your xfree config file and log file along with dmesg to a text file.
 This will help troubleshoot it better.  Your bug won't get looked at unless you
include these.

Comment 2 Mike A. Harris 2003-02-19 05:39:28 UTC
S3 Savage is 2D only in Linux, zero 3D acceleration - so _all_ OpenGL games
or other software will run slow.  If you need 3D acceleration, you must
use a supported 3D card that there is 3D acceleration support for.

ATI Rage, does not have 3D support, so it would run just as slow.  Unless
your prior card was a Rage 128, which does have 3D support.  Don't confuse
ATI Rage and ATI Rage 128 however.  The former is Mach64, and the latter
is r128.

The "vesa" driver is used for cards which are not officially supported, but
which some user has indicated that they've gotten it to work with the "vesa"
driver after testing.  If we get confirmation that "vesa" works for someone,
then we generally will make the autodetection point to the "vesa" driver
for at least unaccelerated 2D support.

This card is supported now in our latest beta release 'phoebe', again in
2D only.  S3 Savage will never likely have 3D acceleration support in
XFree86 however.

Closing bug as RAWHIDE

Comment 3 Mike A. Harris 2003-02-19 05:45:38 UTC
Oh, also... I forgot to mention..

There is a new S3 savage driver, (the one in rawhide), which I will
possibly include in our next Red Hat Linux 8.0 update also, so this
card might end up being officially supported in 8.0 in the long run
anyway.  Again - 2D only though.