Bug 873375

At the moment, there are no plans to support direct upgrade from F16 to F18 with fedup. It may happen in the future but there are no current plans to do that.

The recommended upgrade procedure right now would be to use anaconda or preupgrade to upgrade to F17 before using fedup to upgrade from F17 to F18.

OK

if so, we should document this. in fact, we _really_ need to document the whole fedup Thing. is someone organizing co-ordination with the docs team?

This should go into release notes instead of common bugs. Adding label.

Change to but type enhancement.

My point 6 (of http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/175284.html) 

Other thing, that could be not ready for F18 release date, but is
important, in my point of view, is Fedup be able to upgrade F16 to F18 .

If not possible , feel free to close it , but lets us know why -OK ?

Change to bug type enhancement.

My point 6 (of http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-December/175284.html) 

Other thing, that could be not ready for F18 release date, but is
important, in my point of view, is Fedup be able to upgrade F16 to F18 .

If not possible , feel free to close it , but lets us know why, OK ?

fedup commit 9225b62 should let it build on F16:

  https://github.com/wgwoods/fedup/commit/9225b62

but in all the tests I tried the upgrade itself won't start.

Something about the difference between F18 systemd and F18 systemd is drastic enough that F16 can't/won't switch into upgrade.img to start the upgrade, and instead it just hangs. If that gets fixed, we can do official F16 builds.

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Unless that bug gets fixed, the official recommendation is: upgrade to F17 first using the existing upgrade methods. (You can also install F18 fresh and keep your existing /home partition, of course).

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There might be some unofficial hacks you could do to make fedup work on F16, but I haven't found any yet.

(In reply to comment #7)
> fedup commit 9225b62 should let it build on F16:
> 
>   https://github.com/wgwoods/fedup/commit/9225b62
> 
> but in all the tests I tried the upgrade itself won't start.
> 
> Something about the difference between F18 systemd and F18 systemd is
> drastic enough that F16 can't/won't switch into upgrade.img to start the
> upgrade, and instead it just hangs. If that gets fixed, we can do official
> F16 builds.

Hum thanks for your input should we change this bug to systemd ? to see if someone of systemd help out ?

No, you should reproduce the problem (i.e. set up a F16 system, install fedup, try to upgrade) and then file a new bug.

Put this bug ID (873375) in the "Blocks:" field of that new systemd bug.

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