Bug 919760

Summary:	Backgrounds shouldn't be a dependency of Gnome!
Product:	[Fedora] Fedora	Reporter:	Andrew <theamazingchiepoo>
Component:	desktop-backgrounds	Assignee:	Martin Sourada <martin.sourada>
Status:	CLOSED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	Fedora Extras Quality Assurance <extras-qa>
Severity:	low	Docs Contact:
Priority:	unspecified
Version:	18	CC:	beland, christoph.wickert, martin.sourada
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Last Closed:	2014-02-05 19:48:40 UTC	Type:	Bug
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Bug Blocks:	661442

Description Andrew 2013-03-09 23:28:40 UTC

Description of problem:

When attempting to remove shovelware packages in Fedora 18 (thanks to some genius removing the expert install / custom package selection feature), I discovered that packages Desktop-Backgrounds-Gnome & Desktop-Backgrounds-Basic are marked as a dependencies of various key gnome components (can't single out which one exactly). This shouldn't be, nothing arbitrary should be forced upon the user.

According to the package information, these are just images with no actual system components within them. Please do not create arbitrary dependencies that have no rhyme or reason - such as having this Spherical-Cow-Backgrounds.


How reproducible:

Always


Steps to Reproduce:
1. Attempt to remove the package desktop-backgrounds-gnome or spherical-cow-backgrounds using your package manager of choice
2. Witness stupidity
  
Actual results:

Almost all of Gnome gets sucked in as being "dependent" on it and therefore "needed" to be removed as well if one wishes to remove the bloat.

Expected results:

Nothing should be depending on background images and should be removed peacefully.

Comment 1 Christoph Wickert 2013-03-10 07:38:55 UTC

Thanks for fling this bug report. As I am constantly working on breaking up large dependency chains (see bug 661442), I appreciate your efforts.

However there is nothing that we as the maintainers of the desktop-backgrounds package can change, it's on the GNOME maintainers to remove the dependency to our package from theirs. In order to do this, please give us the full output of the yum commands you were running (I am not running GNOME, so I can't do it).

Comment 2 Andrew 2013-03-10 20:00:08 UTC

I appreciate your prompt reply. I'm afraid I can't tell you what commands I use cause I remove packages via GUI using Yum Extender

Comment 3 Christopher Beland 2013-07-12 01:46:07 UTC

I'm not entirely sure why these dependencies are considered incorrect.  It seems reasonable that if the default collection of background images is not present, the Gnome desktop will not work correctly.  And if you install Gnome, you would expect the default background images to get pulled in automatically.

In case you still want to go ahead with this, I'm running Gnome so I can supply the requested info...

"yum remove desktop-backgrounds-gnome" tries to uninstall the following:

Removing:
 desktop-backgrounds-gnome
                       noarch 18.0.0-1.fc18  @koji-override-0/$releasever 115  
Removing for dependencies:
 bluez                 x86_64 4.101-6.fc18   @updates                     1.9 M
 brasero-nautilus      x86_64 3.6.1-2.fc18   @updates                      47 k
 cheese                x86_64 2:3.6.2-1.fc18 @koji-override-0/$releasever 3.8 M
 cheese-libs           x86_64 2:3.6.2-1.fc18 @koji-override-0/$releasever 4.2 M
 control-center        x86_64 1:3.6.3-2.fc18 @updates                      15 M
 deja-dup              x86_64 26.0-1.fc18    @updates                     3.8 M
 empathy               x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18   @updates                      13 M
 eog                   x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 7.9 M
 evince-nautilus       x86_64 3.6.1-2.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever  19 k
 evolution             x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18   @updates                      44 M
 evolution-ews         x86_64 3.6.4-1.fc18   @updates                     1.1 M
 file-roller-nautilus  x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever  19 k
 gdm                   x86_64 1:3.6.2-5.fc18 @koji-override-0/$releasever 4.9 M
 gdm-libs              x86_64 1:3.6.2-5.fc18 @koji-override-0/$releasever  36 k
 gnome-bluetooth       x86_64 1:3.6.1-3.fc18 @updates                     271 k
 gnome-clocks          noarch 0.1.5-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 541 k
 gnome-color-manager   x86_64 3.6.1-1.fc18   @updates                     3.8 M
 gnome-contacts        x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.2 M
 gnome-desktop3        x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18   @updates                     2.5 M
 gnome-documents       x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.0 M
 gnome-font-viewer     x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 240 k
 gnome-packagekit      x86_64 3.6.2-2.fc18   @updates                      12 M
 gnome-panel           x86_64 3.6.2-2.fc18   @updates                     9.0 M
 gnome-screensaver     x86_64 3.6.1-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.1 M
 gnome-settings-daemon x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18   @updates                     5.7 M
 gnome-settings-daemon-updates
                       x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18   @updates                      65 k
 gnome-shell           x86_64 3.6.3.1-1.fc18 @updates                     4.7 M
 gnome-shell-extension-common
                       noarch 3.6.2-1.fc18   @updates                     268 k
 gnome-shell-extension-user-theme
                       noarch 3.6.2-1.fc18   @updates                     6.9 k
 gnome-tweak-tool      noarch 3.6.1-2.fc18   @fedora                      457 k
 nautilus              x86_64 3.6.3-4.fc18   @updates                      14 M
 nautilus-extensions   x86_64 3.6.3-4.fc18   @updates                      52 k
 orca                  x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever  13 M
 pulseaudio-gdm-hooks  x86_64 2.1-6.fc18     @updates                     354  
 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
                       x86_64 2.1-6.fc18     @updates                     216 k
 totem-nautilus        x86_64 1:3.6.3-2.fc18 @updates                      61 k

Similar for "yum remove spherical-cow-backgrounds-gnome"

Removing:
 spherical-cow-backgrounds-gnome  noarch 18.0.0-2.fc18   @updates                     989  
Removing for dependencies:
 bluez                            x86_64 4.101-6.fc18    @updates                     1.9 M
 brasero-nautilus                 x86_64 3.6.1-2.fc18    @updates                      47 k
 cheese                           x86_64 2:3.6.2-1.fc18  @koji-override-0/$releasever 3.8 M
 cheese-libs                      x86_64 2:3.6.2-1.fc18  @koji-override-0/$releasever 4.2 M
 control-center                   x86_64 1:3.6.3-2.fc18  @updates                      15 M
 deja-dup                         x86_64 26.0-1.fc18     @updates                     3.8 M
 desktop-backgrounds-gnome        noarch 18.0.0-1.fc18   @koji-override-0/$releasever 115  
 empathy                          x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18    @updates                      13 M
 eog                              x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 7.9 M
 evince-nautilus                  x86_64 3.6.1-2.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever  19 k
 evolution                        x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18    @updates                      44 M
 evolution-ews                    x86_64 3.6.4-1.fc18    @updates                     1.1 M
 file-roller-nautilus             x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever  19 k
 gdm                              x86_64 1:3.6.2-5.fc18  @koji-override-0/$releasever 4.9 M
 gdm-libs                         x86_64 1:3.6.2-5.fc18  @koji-override-0/$releasever  36 k
 gnome-bluetooth                  x86_64 1:3.6.1-3.fc18  @updates                     271 k
 gnome-clocks                     noarch 0.1.5-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 541 k
 gnome-color-manager              x86_64 3.6.1-1.fc18    @updates                     3.8 M
 gnome-contacts                   x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.2 M
 gnome-desktop3                   x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18    @updates                     2.5 M
 gnome-documents                  x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.0 M
 gnome-font-viewer                x86_64 3.6.2-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 240 k
 gnome-packagekit                 x86_64 3.6.2-2.fc18    @updates                      12 M
 gnome-panel                      x86_64 3.6.2-2.fc18    @updates                     9.0 M
 gnome-screensaver                x86_64 3.6.1-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever 1.1 M
 gnome-settings-daemon            x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18    @updates                     5.7 M
 gnome-settings-daemon-updates    x86_64 3.6.4-3.fc18    @updates                      65 k
 gnome-shell                      x86_64 3.6.3.1-1.fc18  @updates                     4.7 M
 gnome-shell-extension-common     noarch 3.6.2-1.fc18    @updates                     268 k
 gnome-shell-extension-user-theme noarch 3.6.2-1.fc18    @updates                     6.9 k
 gnome-tweak-tool                 noarch 3.6.1-2.fc18    @fedora                      457 k
 nautilus                         x86_64 3.6.3-4.fc18    @updates                      14 M
 nautilus-extensions              x86_64 3.6.3-4.fc18    @updates                      52 k
 orca                             x86_64 3.6.3-1.fc18    @koji-override-0/$releasever  13 M
 pulseaudio-gdm-hooks             x86_64 2.1-6.fc18      @updates                     354  
 pulseaudio-module-bluetooth      x86_64 2.1-6.fc18      @updates                     216 k
 totem-nautilus                   x86_64 1:3.6.3-2.fc18  @updates                      61 k

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