Bug 924061

Summary: @gnome-desktop default option groups for gnome-boxes and evolution
Product: [Fedora] Fedora Reporter: Jens Petersen <petersen>
Component: compsAssignee: Radek Vokál <rvokal>
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Version: 19CC: mclasen, pnemade, rvokal
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Description Jens Petersen 2013-03-21 04:49:50 UTC
Description of problem:
VM guest installs of Fedora are becoming increasingly common.
It doesn't really make sense to run virt inside a guest I think
so I would like to suggest that virt support (gnome-boxes) should not
be installed by default.

Comment 1 Bill Nottingham 2013-03-21 18:11:15 UTC
This is probably best solved with the idea of default-on-but-able-to-be-deselected option groups.

Comment 2 Jens Petersen 2013-03-22 05:01:46 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> This is probably best solved with the idea of
> default-on-but-able-to-be-deselected option groups.


I think we had some early on for F18 which I liked.

Comment 3 Jens Petersen 2013-04-01 08:28:00 UTC
Another good candidate for this would be desktop accessibility IMHO,
and also apps like evolution.

Comment 4 Jens Petersen 2013-04-01 08:28:30 UTC
Maybe also input-methods

Comment 5 Matthias Clasen 2013-04-16 15:59:54 UTC
I don't think accessibility or internationalization are optional.
What are we trying to achieve here ?
Is this another minimal-install-in-disguise ?

Comment 6 Jens Petersen 2013-04-17 06:01:03 UTC
I would like the core gnome group to be just for the core desktop itself
and then have one or more optional default groups for applications
(ie which would be installed by default) for things like
evolution, gnome-boxes, totem, etc.

I think not everyone needs accessibility so being able to
skip it would be okay - similarly some users will never
use input methods so I would not object to having
@input-method shown in anaconda (defaulting to checked)
allowing people to skip installation.

Anyway I originally filed this bug since I felt it
is a little strange to install gnome-boxes by default
since it can't really be used in VM guests where many people
install fedora.  Myself I am quite used to virt-manager.

In the early F18 cycle various default groups were listed
and could be deselected before install which I thought
was quite attractive.  I think this could be use for
many of the Fedora desktop and other environments too.

Comment 7 Bill Nottingham 2013-04-17 14:30:54 UTC
evo and boxes I could see being separate-but-selected-by-default. i18n & a11y should be core desktop features, IMO.

Comment 8 Jens Petersen 2013-04-18 03:52:03 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> evo and boxes I could see being separate-but-selected-by-default.

Okay, how do you think, Matthias?

Comment 9 Jens Petersen 2013-04-30 02:02:33 UTC
and of course how could I forget libreoffice!

Comment 10 Bill Nottingham 2013-04-30 20:11:56 UTC
I've sent patches to yum/anaconda to allow the possibility of options that are selected by default.

Comment 11 Jens Petersen 2013-05-09 10:07:29 UTC
Great thanks!

Let me assign back to Bill since I think this also is applicable
beyond just the @desktop group/environment.

(actually wish that yum was also aware of environments)

Comment 12 Jens Petersen 2013-05-17 02:31:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> I've sent patches to yum/anaconda to allow the possibility of options that
> are selected by default.

Bill, do you know if it has been committed yet?

(I guess libreoffice is only installed by default on Live.)

Comment 13 Bill Nottingham 2013-05-20 15:02:44 UTC
It's only in updates-testing for yum, so not pushed to anaconda yet.

Comment 14 Bill Nottingham 2013-05-29 20:27:29 UTC
Pushed to anaconda now.

Moving things like gnome-boxes, evolution, etc. outside of gnome-desktop would require creating new groups, which is new translatable strings. Would prefer not to do that at this point. I've gone ahead and changed the libreoffice group to default to on, though (to match the live image.)

Comment 15 Parag Nemade 2013-06-06 04:27:04 UTC
   What will be final status for libreoffice essential packages for F19 GA for livecd? Will they be now onwards be available as default installed packages for livecd?

Comment 16 Bill Nottingham 2013-06-06 14:32:01 UTC
LibreOffice is on the Desktop Live Image (not CD sized). They are also default-selected on the DVD when the GNOME environment is selected.

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