Harald,

It is unclear what are you suggesting here.
How would you want this to happen differently?

Thanks
Dmitri

move it to "samba" or "samba-common"?

i had yesterday to install "libsmbclient" and "samba-client"
to change one users password on a *server*

Oct 05 18:34:23 Installed: 2:libsmbclient-4.0.9-1.fc18.x86_64
Oct 05 18:34:23 Installed: 2:samba-client-4.0.9-1.fc18.x86_64

ping

it makes really no sense that you need to install "samba-client" to get the "smbpasswd" command on a *server* where you need it to add a samba-user or change his password

Hello Harald,

until we came to conclusion how to deal with this, can you use the "pdbedit -a" tool to add and change passwords of users ? pdbedit is already in samba-common.

Thanks,
Guenther

for now i simply added "samba-client" to my meta-packages containing "samba", but as i not that often need to add/change users and obviously cleaned up the machines proper i really wondered where the command went

Hi,

I had the same problem today (F20). Samba server, users added with pdbedit and now I have to change a password. No idea how to do this with pdbedit and smbpasswd is not available even though there's a manpage installed:

$ rpm -ql samba-common-4.1.9-4.fc20.x86_64 | grep pass
/usr/lib64/samba/pdb/smbpasswd.so
/usr/share/man/man5/smbpasswd.5.gz

So now what? Do I have to delete my smb user with pdbedit and re-add it again just to change the password? This makes no sense.

Please add smbpasswd to samba-common (or remove the smbpasswd manpage there). Thanks.

that is a *major* packaging bug and i don't get that nobody fixes this - there is no valid reason that you need "samba-client" to change a password on a server

(In reply to stadtkind2 from comment #6)
> Hi,
> 
> I had the same problem today (F20). Samba server, users added with pdbedit
> and now I have to change a password. No idea how to do this with pdbedit and
> smbpasswd is not available even though there's a manpage installed:
> 
> $ rpm -ql samba-common-4.1.9-4.fc20.x86_64 | grep pass
> /usr/lib64/samba/pdb/smbpasswd.so
> /usr/share/man/man5/smbpasswd.5.gz
> 
> So now what? Do I have to delete my smb user with pdbedit and re-add it
> again just to change the password? This makes no sense.

This is not a bug:

- The smbpasswd.so is the shared object that implements the
  smbpasswd backend to the passdb pluggable subsystem in Samba.
  This is used by both server and client commands.
- The smbpasswd.5 manpage is the manpage for the smbpasswd file.
  This belongs to the implementation of the backend, i.e. the
  smbpasswd.so
- The smbpasswd binary and its accompanying manpage (smbpasswd.8)
  are currently in the samba-client package, which is under discussion
  here. But at least it is consistent!

We are currently discussing whether to move smbpasswd (tool+man)
to the client package. Both make some amount of sense to us.

Michael

"This is used by both server and client commands" - well, that's why it belongs to the "common" package you have installed on servers as well as clients while you typically don't need the client package on a server

(In reply to Harald Reindl from comment #9)
> "This is used by both server and client commands" - well, that's why it
> belongs to the "common" package you have installed on servers as well as
> clients while you typically don't need the client package on a server

Yes, the "it" I was referring to is in this case the
smbpasswd.so and smbpasswd.5, which *are* in the common package. :-)

Michael

so why can than be the small "/usr/bin/smbpasswd" also be there instead enforce installation of "smaba-client" just to add a new user or change a password on the server?

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 32K 2014-10-07 20:00 /usr/bin/smbpasswd

Yes, it could be there. I understand your reasoning.
As I wrote above: we are currently discussing the pro-s and con-s
and will update the bug report shortly.

Stay tuned - Michael

I've move the smbpasswd utility to samba-common package in rawhide.