From Bugzilla Helper: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Description of problem: The main desktop menu accessed from the red fedora on the panel is confusing and inconsistent. Examples: Accessories menu, the icons for file roller and dictionary entries are not helpful when compared to the icons for text editor, calculator, print manager. Why is "print manager" in accessories menu? There is also an "openoffice.org printer setup" entry, a "printing" entry, a "printer system switcher" entry, and not to be left out another "Print manager" entry in the system tools menu. Every entry in the accessories menu produces a pop up text window when the mouse is placed over the entry except for one, the Unicode Character Map entry. The horizontal position of the pop up text windows depends upon the horizontal position of the mouse and the pop up text window is placed over adjacent menu entries, obscuring the entry. The pop up text window should not obscure adjacent menu items. What is the Accessories icon supposed to be? I don't know what it is. All of those menus, all of those icons, it's just confusing. Programming, System tools, and System Settings all have screwdrivers in their icons. Icons are used for more than one thing, again in inconsistent fashion. For example the icon for the Preferences -> Control Center is the same as the System Tools and More System Tools and KDevelop-setup. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): gnome-panel-2.4.0-3 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.click on red fedora on panel 2.start navigating through and using the menus 3.observe confusing and inconsistent nature of menus, icons, descriptions Actual Results: menu icon/entry/description/naming/layout implementation is poor Expected Results: menu icon/entry/description/naming/layout implementation should "just work" Additional info:
Moving to redhat-menus where our new menus expert - Seth - will look after the you... :)
I'd suggest either aggressively consolidating the various preferences tools into at most half as many as there are now, or splitting up the preferences menu into different categories, as has already been partially done with the accessibility preferences tools.
(In reply to comment #0) > Why is "print manager" in accessories menu? There is also an > "openoffice.org printer setup" entry, a "printing" entry, a "printer > system switcher" entry, and not to be left out another "Print manager" > entry in the system tools menu. This has been cleaned up in the lastest release. > Every entry in the accessories menu produces a pop up text window when > the mouse is placed over the entry except for one, the Unicode > Character Map entry. > > The horizontal position of the pop up text windows depends upon the > horizontal position of the mouse and the pop up text window is placed > over adjacent menu entries, obscuring the entry. The pop up text > window should not obscure adjacent menu items. These are tooltips for providing more information related to what the menu entries do. They are quite helpful for discovering what a launcher does and should disappear immediately after moving the mouse. > What is the Accessories icon supposed to be? I don't know what it is. > All of those menus, all of those icons, it's just confusing. > Programming, System tools, and System Settings all have screwdrivers > in their icons. Icons do best a queues for scanning areas and quicking finding items on the second time around. It is relatively impossible for us to create icons that represent all these things to everyone in the same way. The best we hope for is icons that aren't offensive and can trigger some kind of recognition response. > Icons are used for more than one thing, again in inconsistent fashion. > For example the icon for the Preferences -> Control Center is the > same as the System Tools and More System Tools and KDevelop-setup. This has been fixed in the latest rawhide.