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Created attachment 1224062 [details] A small sample tex file triggering this bug Description of problem: After installing texlive-hyphen-german, hyphenation doesn't work. Instead, the user gets this message from pdflatex: (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/german/ngerman.sty v2.5e 1998-07-08 Package: ngerman 1998/07/08 v2.5e Support for writing german texts (br) \grmnU@D=\dimen103 ngerman -- \language number for ngerman undefined, default 255 used, ngerman -- Please read "gerdoc.tex" how to install hyphenation patterns. ngerman -- \language number for naustrian undefined, default 255 used. ngerman -- \language number for French undefined, default 255 used. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): texlive-hyphen-german-svn40340-17.fc25.1.noarch texlive-latex-svn40218-17.fc25.1.noarch How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. create simple tex file (see attachment) 2. compile Actual results: Hyphenation doesn't work. Instead I get the messages above. Expected results: Hyphenation should work out of the box.
Created attachment 1224799 [details] test file with dehyph-exptl Loading dehyph-exptl doesn't work either, so I thing this is a general setup issue with all hyphen packages or with the babel package. Steps to reproduce with dehyph-exptl: 1. Create simple example file following steps from documentation on https://www.ctan.org/pkg/dehyph-exptl plus a simple test text (see attachment) 2. try to compile What happens: I'm getting an error message: ! Package hyphsubst Error: Unknown pattern `ngerman-x-latest'. What should happen: As this is a simple example, it should not fail. Affected versions: texlive-dehyph-exptl-svn34459.0.40-17.fc25.1.noarch texlive-babel-svn40706-17.fc25.1.noarch texlive-latex-svn40218-17.fc25.1.noarch
Created attachment 1224800 [details] test file with english hyphenation English hyphenation seems to work fine.
Texlive with Hungarian language has the same bug 1212998. Running `fmtutil --missing` as local user (not root) works around this problem for all languages except the ngerman-x-latest. I'll report a separate bug for that.
I suspect strongly that most, if not all of your failures here are due to the scriptlet issues in -17, where the scriptlets would fail due to dependency issues. The quickest way to confirm that would be to look at /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat and /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def. Are entries for "ngerman" present and correct?
Also, please note that https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-0d29e349a3 is pending a push to testing. While it is not fixing any specific hyphenation issues, it does fix the aforementioned dependency issues causing scriptlet failures (which is where language.dat/language.def get written out).
Created attachment 1225373 [details] language.dat and language.def from /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config (In reply to Tom "spot" Callaway from comment #4) > I suspect strongly that most, if not all of your failures here are due to > the scriptlet issues in -17, where the scriptlets would fail due to > dependency issues. Looks like it. I've tested on a fresh user profile and it works there now, same as on my profile. > The quickest way to confirm that would be to look at > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat and > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def. Are entries > for "ngerman" present and correct? I think they are now. I've attached both of them.
I encountered the same issue with italian, I have texlive-hyphen-italian installed: Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were preloaded for (babel) the language `Italian' into the format. (babel) Please, configure your TeX system to add them and (babel) rebuild the format. Now I will use the patterns (babel) preloaded for english instead on input line 26.
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(In reply to Christian Stadelmann from comment #6) > Created attachment 1225373 [details] > language.dat and language.def from > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config > > (In reply to Tom "spot" Callaway from comment #4) > > I suspect strongly that most, if not all of your failures here are due to > > the scriptlet issues in -17, where the scriptlets would fail due to > > dependency issues. > > Looks like it. I've tested on a fresh user profile and it works there now, > same as on my profile. > > > The quickest way to confirm that would be to look at > > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat and > > /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def. Are entries > > for "ngerman" present and correct? > > I think they are now. I've attached both of them. Can you please have a look at the language.dat and language.def files attached to that comment to make sure it is ok now? If yes, then this bug can be marked as fixed.
This looks correct to me. Closing out.