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Bug 140077 - Problem with french installation
Problem with french installation
Product: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4
Classification: Red Hat
Component: man-pages-fr (Show other bugs)
All Linux
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Assigned To: Eido Inoue
Brian Brock
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Reported: 2004-11-19 11:57 EST by Pierre Fumery
Modified: 2007-11-30 17:07 EST (History)
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Last Closed: 2004-12-10 15:22:29 EST
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Description Pierre Fumery 2004-11-19 11:57:06 EST
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7)

Description of problem:
When choosing french installation, we got weird messages, even english
ones like :
      echo $LANG
      man top
      TOP(1)                        Linux User�s Manual              
      man ls
      LS(1L)                   Manuel de l�utilisateur Linux         

The LANG variable is set by default to fr_FR.UTF-8
It doesn't look right ...

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. To install RHEL4-beta2 on any platforms
2. To choose french installation

Actual Results:  Weird messages (see description)

Expected Results:  French (or at least correct english) messages were

Additional info:

If you set LANG to a "correct" value : export LANG=fr_FR
it will work for some commands like
      man ls
      LS(1L)                   Manuel de l'utilisateur Linux         

             ls, dir, vdir - Afficher le contenu d'un r�pertoire.

but still not for other ones like :
      man top
      TOP(1)                        Linux User�<80><99>s Manual
Comment 1 Pierre Fumery 2004-11-19 12:01:33 EST
On other plateforms, results are a little different.

On x86, when setting export LANG=fr_FR, you'll get :

      man top
      TOP(1)                        Linux Userâ<80><99>s Manual
      man ls
      LS(1L)                   Manuel de l'utilisateur Linux         

Even when you choose english version (export LANG=en_EN), you'll get
mis-formatted messages :

      man top
      TOP(1)                        Linux Userâ<80><99>s Manual
      man ls
      LS(1L)                   Manuel de l'utilisateur Linux         

Comment 2 Eido Inoue 2004-11-22 03:15:45 EST
I'm not seeing these problems on the latest RHEL4/FC3 with updates.
Can't reproduce. My French and English pages are displaying fine.

Confirm that your groff, less, man, gnome-terminal, vte are up2date
and gnome-terminal is set in the right character encoding.
Comment 3 JoAnne K. Halligan 2004-11-30 18:51:54 EST

As the partner only has the last RHEL4 B2 provided by engineering, can
you please confirm that you used the version they note above or put in
here specifically what version you saw it work on and how I can get
that to the partner to try? 

We need to do that before closing the item, otherwise is hasn't solved
the problem from the partner perspective. 

I've also asked the partner to please confirm the items you noted above.

Thanks, JoAnne
Comment 4 Pierre Fumery 2004-12-01 04:23:21 EST
We just select "french installation" and we discovered that the LANG
variable was set to fr_FR.UTF-8 and we got weird displays.

After that, we tried to find out workarounds without success.

It may be due to beta versions and it will work fine with newer
deliveries ? You might be aware of such poblems and they may have
already been fixed. Please let us know and we'll test next available
RHEL3 beta or release candidate versions.
Comment 5 Eido Inoue 2004-12-10 15:22:29 EST
comment 1: setting LANG to non-UTF-8 settings (ex. en_US or fr_FR vs
en_US.UTF-8 and fr_FR.UTF-8) is not supported by groff/nroff, which is
used by man.

comment 3: re-confirmed with stock beta 2, and did not encounter
problems. French displayed correctly. Partner should also have access
to pre1.

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