Description of problem: Cannot install pencil. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): pencil-2.0.18-3.fc27 How reproducible: Easy Steps to Reproduce: 1. dnf install pencil Actual results: $ LANG=C.utf8 dnf install pencil --allowerasing --refresh Error: Problem: conflicting requests - nothing provides xulrunner >= 1.9.8 needed by pencil-2.0.18-3.fc27.noarch Expected results: Installs pencil.
Yep, looks like xulrunner is not packaged for F27. I just installed Pencil successfully but my F27 was an upgrade from F26, so I had xulrunner-45.9.0-1.fc26 installed. As a workaround you should be able to grab F26 xulrunner packages from https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xulrunner and install them with "dnf install xulrunner" (from the same directory you downloaded them to). The bigger problem is that xulrunner has been a dead project for 2 years. Pencil 3.x moved to Electron with its first release in February, but Fedora hasn't updated to the rewrite, presumably because Electron hasn't been packaged for Fedora (I don't know why: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Electron).
I liked Pencil, but this package is broken. The way I see it, these are our options: * Get in touch with other people such as mosquito about trying to get a complete Electron package working, so we and other packagers can use it as a dependency. I could try to help with this, but probably don't have the time to work on such a big package by myself right now. * Bring xulrunner back into Fedora so Pencil will install correctly. * Set Pencil to be an orphaned package in Fedora 27+ :(
Pencil 3.0 doesn't require xulrunner. https://github.com/evolus/pencil
This package definitely can use some love. It looks unmaintained right now. I currently see only one option, unless someone steps up: orphan it.
(In reply to Andrew Toskin from comment #2) > I liked Pencil, but this package is broken. The way I see it, these are our > options: > > * Get in touch with other people such as mosquito about trying to get a > complete Electron package working, so we and other packagers can use it as a > dependency. I could try to help with this, but probably don't have the time > to work on such a big package by myself right now. I prefer this way and I am waiting for Electron is available on Fedora repo. Any other advice?
(In reply to Sudhir Khanger from comment #3) > Pencil 3.0 doesn't require xulrunner. You didn't read the comments above yours at all, did you? ;) (In reply to Andrew Toskin from comment #2) > * Get in touch with other people such as mosquito about trying to get a > complete Electron package working, so we and other packagers can use it as a > dependency. I could try to help with this, but probably don't have the time > to work on such a big package by myself right now. Given the breadth of Electron applications, I think Electron should be a high-priority package for Fedora in any case. > * Bring xulrunner back into Fedora so Pencil will install correctly. I'm guessing that this is a non-starter since xulrunner is completely unmaintained and will likely have all sorts of security vulnerabilities. Pencil 2.x is also dead. xulrunner and pencil RPMs from F26 can still be manually installed at the moment however, without any dependency problems.
It's possible that pencil could be run using the Firefox -app mode, but I haven't tried it.
(In reply to Samuel Sieb from comment #7) > It's possible that pencil could be run using the Firefox -app mode, but I > haven't tried it. No such thing. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1283670
That's different. This isn't a web application. There definitely is an -app parameter for Firefox. I will try to test it out later today.
Goddammit I hate undocumented program parameters. Sorry Samuel ;) Presumably a vestige of xulrunner per https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Mozilla/XULRunner/XUL_Application_Packaging ?
Maybe there should be an Electron SIG / work group? There are enough other applications that use it now that it would make sense to coordinate a group effort around this. Not sure what is required to start a new SIG -- but if we did, probably some of the people tinkering with Electron apps in a Copr would be willing to join.
Firefox 58 opens the app, but there are no shapes and no pages. Firefox 52 ESR shows the shapes and the page, but you can't drag the shapes onto the page. So that won't work without some changes to the app, but this version has been abandoned so that's unlikely. I have a similar problem with another Mozilla addon that I've helped develop. Mozilla no longer cares about external users, only the browser. Xulrunner and pencil from F26 do still work and can be installed with no issues on F27.
I'll leave this here for now. "Creating a Fedora Special Interest Group" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_Fedora_SIG
This package is now completely broken in F28 - xulrunner from F26 (per above workaround) doesn't install because F28's hunspell is too new.
Which means that it needs to be retired - not sure why there's a F28 build at all (at least the F27 build was installable with xulrunner from F26): https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/pencil
*** Bug 1577654 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Why the hell is this (Pencil 2.x) now being built for F29? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1117231 Someone please put it out of its misery, it should not be in the repos.
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Can someone kill this package please? It's still broken and still being built. https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/pencil
Ok, if I don't hear anything within a week, I'll retire the package. If I forget it (for whatever reason), please remind me to do so. Thank you.
The new Pencil major version 3.x has been released (see: #1505148). It uses Electron instead of XULRunner. However, Electron has not been packaged yet for Fedora officially (just put into a Copr repo) so it seems Pencil could not be packaged too??
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still valid
Does not install in Fedora 29, though there is a packaged RPM for release 3.0.4 at https://pencil.evolus.vn/
No updates to the repository for 1.5 years (https://github.com/evolus/pencil) Is electron useful enough to be packaged?
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Still relevelant in Fedora 31 and 32. Version 3.1.0 has been released in October 2019 https://github.com/evolus/pencil/releases/tag/v3.1.0
Michale, I bumped version to "rawhide".
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 33 development cycle. Changing version to 33.
This package has changed maintainer in the Fedora. Reassigning to the new maintainer of this component.
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