Bug 1520594 - Move web apps to separate, optional package
Summary: Move web apps to separate, optional package
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Status: CLOSED EOL
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: appstream-data
Version: 34
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
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Assignee: Richard Hughes
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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TreeView+ depends on / blocked
 
Reported: 2017-12-04 19:41 UTC by fednuc
Modified: 2022-06-08 00:44 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2022-06-08 00:44:49 UTC
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Description fednuc 2017-12-04 19:41:16 UTC
Giving preferential treatment to proprietary web services via an (effectively mandatory) webapps.xml is antithetical to the very first foundational value of the Fedora project per https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/fedora-overview.html

To specifically quote from that page:

"Advancing software and content freedom is a central community goal, which we accomplish through the software and content we promote."

The current list is:

Kindle Cloud Reader
Ask Fedora
BBC iPlayer
Devdocs.io
Dropbox
Facebook
Google Drive
Google Maps
Google Plus
Google Talk
Twitter
Telegram

Ask Fedora is the only free/open service on that list, and Facebook, Google and Amazon, some of the worst offenders in terms of their treatment of user data, occupy 50% of it.

It's not possible to remove appstream-data without removing gnome-software, making this list effectively a mandatory promotion of proprietary services in Fedora Workstation's graphical software installer.

Either the closed services in webapps.xml, or if that's not possible, then the entire list, should be split out into a separate, optional package.

In addition, I'd suggest that that package shouldn't be installed by default at all, since it's counter to a Fedora foundation.

Comment 1 fednuc 2017-12-04 19:53:31 UTC
Looks like devdocs is also open from brief inspection, sorry, so 2/12 instead of 1/12.

Comment 2 Ben Cotton 2018-11-27 17:56:43 UTC
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Comment 3 fednuc 2018-11-27 18:14:53 UTC
Richard, can you please split out the proprietary web services into a separate package that is not depended on by GNOME Software?

It's appalling that there's non-removable promotion of companies as awful as Facebook in GNOME Software, and the evidence for that company's moral bankruptcy has just piled up week after week in the year since this bug was filed.

Google isn't far behind these days either.

Comment 4 Ben Cotton 2019-10-31 20:26:46 UTC
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Comment 5 fednuc 2019-10-31 20:55:02 UTC
Still a problem in F31, and Facebook is the current frontrunner in the hotly contested competition for "worst corporate psychopath" :J

Comment 6 Ben Cotton 2020-11-03 14:59:40 UTC
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Comment 7 Ben Cotton 2021-02-09 15:06:07 UTC
This bug appears to have been reported against 'rawhide' during the Fedora 34 development cycle.
Changing version to 34.

Comment 8 box-dev 2021-02-21 11:45:35 UTC
Dear Maintainer,

I understand it is not going to be the highest priority to look into this but I think fednuc is right - by leaving this as it is, Fedora is advertising proprietary services which directly compete with FOSS alternatives and it goes against core values. This reminds me of the reason I eventually stopped using Ubuntu at home - that they stuck with their advertising of Amazon in the default installation. This should be available to add as an option, not in place by default and unremovable for most home users.

If I search for "Maps" in Gnome Software, I can see Google Maps. Why is that in there? Fedora might as well be shipping all of Google's (closed) software as RPMs in that case - something which, to the credit of the Fedora project, cannot be done. Hell, even Facebook is in there, with some lovely text saying "Give people the power to share". How wonderful. Incidentally, Facebook has played a real role in destroying the politics of my country - and now my favourite Linux distribution is advertising it to me in its default installation and provides no way of turning that off.

Please, I know not everyone is going to think this is a big deal, but it is pretty clearly not in line with Fedora's mission and a lot of us use Fedora because it gives freedom of choice - i.e. the base is free and open, and we can choose what else we add afterwards. Please consider making webapps.xml a separate package, maybe don't have it installed by default. I don't have a problem with it being there but I really think it needs to be optional.

Comment 9 Ben Cotton 2022-05-12 16:27:30 UTC
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Fedora will stop maintaining and issuing updates for Fedora Linux 34 on 2022-06-07.
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Comment 10 Ben Cotton 2022-06-08 00:44:49 UTC
Fedora Linux 34 entered end-of-life (EOL) status on 2022-06-07.

Fedora Linux 34 is no longer maintained, which means that it
will not receive any further security or bug fix updates. As a result we
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