Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 173974
/bin/vi help no longer works properly
Last modified: 2008-03-03 13:37:24 EST
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Description of problem:
Because vim help files are compressed, and because minimal vim cannot understand advance settings in /etc/vimrc which might otherwise help (eg autocmd), when viewing help with /bin/vi all you get is compressed garbage on the screen.
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Steps to Reproduce:
Actual Results: 1. normal vi startup
2. indigestible garbage on screen
Expected Results: Should see a help screen
To manually fix:
Workaround: Use vim instead.
You need to install vim-enhanced or something anyway to be able to see help,
because vim-minimal doesn't come with any help (or if it does, it doesn't know
where to find it).
Thanks Robin, but didn't you read the manual fix I supplied?
That actually fixes it so there is no need for your workaround (of using vim
Also, vim-enhanced is already installed - that is where the help files come from
of course. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to "gunzip *.tzt.gz" as described
Anyhow, with the vim help files amount to a whopping 4.5MB uncompressed there
isn't much point compressing them in the first place.
The text in the help files doesn't apply to vim-minimal in most cases, it
describes features of vim-enhanced.
(In reply to comment #3)
> The text in the help files doesn't apply to vim-minimal in most cases, it
> describes features of vim-enhanced.
Obviously - otherwise vim-minimal wouldn't have minimal in its name!
It would be reasonable to assume that since vim-minimal is a subset of vim then
the corresponding help content applicable to vim-minimal would also be a subset
of the total help content.
Please, god, help me get out of this dark world of help-desk absurdity!
It goes without saying, of course, that if vim-minimal wasn't supposed to have
working help then that feature would have been removed from vim-minimal along
with all the other features that have been removed.
But yes, vim-minimal does have a help command, so one can reasonable assume that
the help is supposed to work properly.
And the help command clearly does not work properly when the help files are
I have already supplied a clear fix for the bug (but the better fix would
probably be in vim.spec). But it has fallen on deaf ears. All I get is a lame
attempt to close this bug report on the basis that some of the help content
doesn't apply to vim-minimal. Shame. Pathetic. Disappointing.
It is weird, isn't it? This is exactly the attitude which made me ditch SCO Unix
many years ago.
This report targets the FC3 or FC4 products, which have now been EOL'd.
Could you please check that it still applies to a current Fedora release, and
either update the target product or close it ?
Fedora Core 4 is now completely unmaintained. These bugs can't be fixed in that
version. If the issue still persists in current Fedora Core, please reopen.
Thank you, and sorry about this.
Applicable to Fedora Core 6. Sorry about that.
This bug is still there on Fedora 7.