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DescriptionJulio Entrena Perez
2020-11-12 11:43:04 UTC
Document URL:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_satellite/6.8/html-single/managing_hosts/index#host-management-without-goferd-and-katello-agent_managing-hosts
Section Number and Name:
Chapter 12. Host Management Without Goferd and Katello Agent
Describe the issue:
This section states that management of hosts without katello-agent requires package katello-host-tools, which uploads the profiles of installed packages and enabled repositories in the host to the Satellite.
As per "Explanation" in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1742208#c0 , modern builds of subscription-manager available for RHEL 7 and RHEL 8 also upload the profiles of installed packages and enabled repositories in the host to the Satellite.
See http://post-office.corp.redhat.com/archives/satellite6-list/2020-November/msg00041.html as well.
If subscription-manager is configured with package_profile_on_trans=1 in /etc/rhsm/rhsm.conf , katello-host-tools disables itself in favour of subscription-manager.
Suggestions for improvement:
The document should mention the possibility of not installing katello-host-tools, which is not required if a modern enough subscription-manager is configured appropriately.
This also removes the need to enable the Satellite Tools repository in the Satellite hosts, and the need to change it on every Satellite host when a new Satellite release is available.
Additional information:
The document should mention that katello-host-tools is still required as a dependency for katello-host-tools-tracer if tracer functionality is desired.
We need more details should be added in the latest version of the satellite documentation for managing the host.
1) Do we need katello-host-tools on the latest version?
2) Do we need katello-host-tools when we have the latest version of subscription-manager installed?
3) when we can remove katello-host-tools or in which scenario?
4) does it need on RHEL 6/7/8
5) Is there any plan of depreciating katello-host-tools in future?
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In https://access.redhat.com/solutions/5572621> subscription-manager won't mimic the functionality of katello-host-tools by default since option package_profile_on_trans is disabled by default and needs to be explicitly enabled:
In kickstarted RHEL 9.3 it doesn't seem to be the case. This article need to be updated.
I haven't done anything special and package_profile_on_trans is enabled by default, so this let me think rhsm is mature enough to replace the need of katello-host-tools.
However katello-host-tools-tracer seems the only one not redundant and require katello-host-tools. So I would keep this package only if tracer is needed/wanted (or you have good politics like reboot or search impacted service in revdeps on upgrade).
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_satellite/6.14/html/managing_hosts/registering_hosts_to_server_managing-hosts#Installing_the_Katello_Agent_managing-hosts
Another thing that comfort me is that in the latest documentation of 6.14 katello-agent have a depreciation warning for katello-agent and not for katello-host-tools-tracer. you can remark that katello-host-tools is never mentioned, so it seems like an internal details.
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Comment 16Red Hat Bugzilla
2024-10-05 04:25:03 UTC
The needinfo request[s] on this closed bug have been removed as they have been unresolved for 120 days