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Bug 2131979

Summary: Stop deprecating puppet.
Product: Red Hat Satellite Reporter: Need Real Name <hornyaks>
Component: PuppetAssignee: satellite6-bugs <satellite6-bugs>
Status: CLOSED NOTABUG QA Contact: Vladimír Sedmík <vsedmik>
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Version: 6.10.7CC: ahumbe
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Description Need Real Name 2022-10-04 11:39:47 UTC
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I am noticing a trend toward deprecation in favor of ansible.    There is nothing wrong with ansible and ansible has its strengths and can address things on a one time basis easily, however, it must be reissued/reasserted to maintain a configuration.  Ansible also has the luxury of having wide adoption of python coders, and support on Windows.

Puppet which uses an agent on the clients with a polling cycle that will refresh the config, and ensure a configuration without being pushed, and it will reassert its config on boot.   Ansible has no idea when a machine boots as it runs no agent on the box.

I am suggesting at this point that we stop trying to get rid of puppet on the Satellite product, and if anything we upgrade puppet to version 7 (on Satellite 6.11 minimally).

If we don't stop, I will be needing to split off puppet onto a standalone server, which I'm already doing for some things, and I was doing my own standalone puppet before Satellite 6 came into being.   I found it nice to be able to pull my puppet yaml into the Satellite product with no serious issues.

I've never used puppet the way foreman and Red Hat has envisioned.    I like the idea of ansible for its ability to do hierarchical style management, but I'm doubting I will ever use ansible the way Red Hat/IBM envisions.

I'm suggesting both will play a role for some time to come, and the more Red Hat tries to deprecate it, the more some will simply look for their own solution that may not involve Red Hat.

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Comment 1 Brad Buckingham 2022-10-13 11:25:55 UTC
Thank you for sharing your feedback and raising this bugzilla.

It is correct that the Puppet ENC in Satellite was documented as deprecated in Satellite 6.9 [1]; however, it is no longer marked deprecated in Satellite 6.10 or 6.11.  This change was based upon customer feedback.  In 6.11, the product is configured to have it disabled by default (on new installs) [2].

At this time, there is no formal plan for additional changes in this area (e.g. deprecation or removal).

[1] https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_satellite/6.9/html-single/release_notes/index#deprecated_functionality
[2] https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_satellite/6.11/html-single/release_notes/index#ref_major-changes-in-this-release_assembly_introducing-red-hat-satellite