Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 431608
accents and punctuations in Liberation fonts are off writing hebrew texts
Last modified: 2008-03-03 08:08:40 EST
Description of problem:
I am using Open Office (but not related to it, as far as I can tell) to write
some text in Hebrew language with accents and punctuations.
I get the punctuation marks off the right place in which they suppose to be.
It works fine with several Open-Type fonts (Ezra SIL, Deja Vu...) so I guess it
is an issue with the internals of the font itself ?
(I hope I filed a bug report in the right place ;-)
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
I can send a pdf or screen shot if it can help
Steps to Reproduce:
1.write some punctuated Hebrew text in OpenOffice Writer
2.apply the Liberation Sans font to the text
punctuation is off the font's position
punctuation should be under the respective font in which it was typed for.
i've just downloaded "fontmatrix" and "fontforge" and found out that liberation
fonts does not have Hebrew glyphs implemented at all :-(
i was actually getting another font instead of liberation when i choose it in
Writer (Open Office) and i didn't know.
so... maybe we could close this bug and open a different one.
"please add hebrew glyphs to liberation fonts" with the same font quality of
DejaVu or Ezra SIL ? what do you say ?
Ok, so what was the name of the Hebrew font you saw in Openoffice?
A screenshot might help.
> maybe we could close this bug and open a different one.
I think we can continue discussing in this bug.
> "please add hebrew glyphs to liberation fonts" with the same font quality of
> DejaVu or Ezra SIL ? what do you say ?
Adding hebrew to liberation-fonts may be a lot of work, but if someone is
able to contribute suitable glyphs it might possible I guess.
Do the equivalent commercial fonts cover Hebrew?
i have looked into the way OpenOffice uses fonts
made some debug tests with the FontConfig system
and found out that since i have msttcorefonts package installed
i get missing Hebrew Glyphs in Liberation Sans being replace with
parallel glyphs from Ariel (MS font).
according to "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Font-FAQ"
i can control this replacement at a system wide level - fontconfig
or OO system wide level -
default font replacement setting
or from the OO interface "Tools >> Options >> Fonts >> FRT"
i talked to OOo people which told me TTF are less discriptive as regarding to
punctuation marks and positioning them in a text line then OpenType fonts and
that i should use OTF as much as i can.
which means that Ariel TTF is probably OK but not good for Hebrew punctuation
marks in OO. (OOo has a bug-report for improving the handling of ttf more
so let's close this one out :-)
i will talk to the Culmus (free hebrew fonts) people and see if it is possible
to get their Hebrew glyphs and use them in Liberation. dimension-wise and
Ok, thanks for the information. If you find a problem when using
culmus, dejavu or other free fonts with Hebrew glyphs, please reopen
or file another bug.