Bug 433906 - yum-updatesd does not emit via email
yum-updatesd does not emit via email
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: yum-updatesd (Show other bugs)
i386 Linux
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Assigned To: Jeremy Katz
Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2008-02-21 21:30 EST by Marcin Struzak
Modified: 2008-05-14 14:25 EDT (History)
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Description Marcin Struzak 2008-02-21 21:30:33 EST
Description of problem:

yum-updatesd does not send notification emails despite the fact that it is 
configured to do that.  Below is the contents of /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf

 # how often to check for new updates (in seconds)
 # 259200s = 3d
 run_interval = 3600
 # how often to allow checking on request (in seconds)
 updaterefresh = 600

 # how to send notifications (valid: dbus, email, syslog)
 emit_via = email
 email_to = root
 email_from = root

 # automatically install updates
 do_update = no
 # automatically download updates
 do_download = no
 # automatically download deps of updates
 do_download_deps = no

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

At will.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Verify email from root to root functions.
2. Set up yum-updatesd.conf as set above (make run_interval = 600 for testing)
3. Run yum check-update to verify that there actually are packets to be updated
3. Start yum-updatesd
4. Wait...
Actual results:
Nothing is received.  

Expected results:
E-mail received at intervals specified.

Additional info:
Comment 1 James Ralston 2008-02-26 17:21:15 EST
The problem is that the yum-updatesd program in Fedora 7 (and, alas, RHEL5) is
very... inflexible... when it comes to notifications via email.

Specifically, the F7 yum-updatesd code uses an SMTP instance from the smtplib
Python module, but doesn't allow you to customize the host/port in
yum-updatesd.conf.  Because the SMTP instance defaults to localhost:25, if no
SMTP daemon is listening on port 25 of localhost, yum-updatesd silently fails to
send mail.  (At least, from my read of the code, if there's an SMTP listen on
port 25 of localhost, I think it should work.  I honestly haven't tried.)

So, if you don't have an SMTP listener, you're out of luck; yum-updatesd in
Fedora 7 doesn't know how to submit mail messages by invoking a command-line

In Fedora 8, yum-updatesd was forked into a separate package, and many of its
egregious problems were fixed: email notifications will actually work without an
SMTP listener, it no longer wakes up 100 times per second (!), it doesn't hold
TCP sockets open in CLOSE_WAIT forever, etc.

IMHO, pre-F8 yum-updatesd is simply too buggy to use.  If you can't update to
F8, I'd simply stick a "yum check-update" cron job into cron.daily, and turn off

Jeremy, is there any realistic hope of backporting the fixed yum-updatesd from
F8 to F7 or (even better) RHEL5?  (I care much more about RHEL5 than F7, but
since RHEL5 has yum-3.0.1, that might not be trivial...)
Comment 2 James Antill 2008-02-26 18:24:40 EST
 A new yum/yum-updatesd is planned for RHEL-5.2, so that should solve the RHEL
Comment 3 James Ralston 2008-02-26 19:49:57 EST
Comment 4 Marcin Struzak 2008-02-26 23:56:06 EST
An investigation of how exactly the SMTP server on localhost:25 behaved (using 
telnet), it was found that a no-domain MAIL FROM: identifier was not accepted.  
Fixed the issue by changing in /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf

        email_from = root


        email_from = root@localhost

The e-mail message however is so bland, that I will revert to what was 
suggested earlier: a yum check-updates in cron.weekly.  It seems that yum-
updatesd in FC8 has a much sexier message, with an actual list of packages that 
could be updated.  Any chance that it would be ported back to FC7?
Comment 5 Bug Zapper 2008-05-14 11:20:44 EDT
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Comment 6 James Ralston 2008-05-14 14:25:50 EDT
There's no sense in backporting to Fedora 7 now, and this should be fixed in
RHEL 5.2.  I'd suggest closing with CURRENTRELEASE or NEXTRELEASE...

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