Created attachment 316914 [details] back trace /etc/init.d/haldaemon start gets a segmentation fault
I am sorry, it was _my_ fault. I replaced /usr/share/hwdata/pci.ids with latest from http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ , but hald dislikes it. replace pci.ids with the distribucion(f8) version and it works again. -thanks-