Bug 489052 - RFE: yum update/upgrade should automatically update yum and rpm first.
Summary: RFE: yum update/upgrade should automatically update yum and rpm first.
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Status: CLOSED NOTABUG
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Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: yum
Version: 10
Hardware: All
OS: Linux
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Assignee: Seth Vidal
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
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Reported: 2009-03-06 23:03 UTC by lexual
Modified: 2014-01-21 23:08 UTC (History)
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Last Closed: 2009-05-05 17:27:01 UTC
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Description lexual 2009-03-06 23:03:00 UTC
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It seems common for update/upgrade problems to be resolved by telling a user to update rpm and yum packages before the rest of the system.

Is there any reason this couldn't happen by default anyway.

e.g.
$ yum upgrade
* yum upgrades yum and rpm
* yum upgrades everthing else.



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Comment 1 seth vidal 2009-03-09 19:03:32 UTC
for any given release it is generally not a problem.

For going from release to release it is a bit counter productive.

yum update rpm\* yum\* from f10->f11 or rawhide:

yum pulls in python
python pulls in glibc
glibc pulls in the world.

Comment 2 Rahul Sundaram 2009-03-16 23:47:13 UTC
Going from release to release, I don't think is counter productive. I used yum to upgrade to new releases almost exclusively.  For Fedora 11 alpha to later rawhide updates, it solves the md5sum mismatch errors a bit more gracefully.

Comment 3 James Antill 2009-05-05 17:27:01 UTC
> Going from release to release, I don't think is counter productive.

 Doing _this feature_ is counter productive, due to the fact that when glibc and python change those are brought in via. a yum update.
 Also even when they aren't brought in, pretty much all the testing in rawhide is with the latest python+glibc+sqlite+libxml+etc. ... having a lot of people only updating just yum, only on GA day, is probably not a great idea.

> For Fedora 11 alpha to later rawhide updates, it solves the md5sum 
> mismatch errors a bit more gracefully. 

 Indeed and that seems like a great thing to put in the Wiki. Also given that the fontconfig bug is still live that eats any sane persons manual yum update of F10 => F11, anyone not reading the wiki notes is totally screwed anyway.


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