Bug 494432 - RFE: Message about utilities
RFE: Message about utilities
Status: CLOSED UPSTREAM
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: yum (Show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Seth Vidal
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Reported: 2009-04-06 16:34 EDT by Ray Todd Stevens
Modified: 2014-01-21 18:08 EST (History)
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Last Closed: 2009-04-06 16:44:40 EDT
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Description Ray Todd Stevens 2009-04-06 16:34:53 EDT
Yum has a habit, and a good habit of telling you that you need to run things like yum-complete-transaction, but these are not normally installed.   So anytime one or more of these hints is displayed the system should also tell you they are found in the yum-utils package, so that you know to install it to run them.
Comment 1 seth vidal 2009-04-06 16:44:40 EDT
yum-complete-transaction is in yum-utils which is in the comps group @base group. Unless you intentionally remove the base group in a kickstart then you are going to have yum-utils installed.
Comment 2 Ray Todd Stevens 2009-04-06 16:54:55 EDT
Interesting.    I have a whole lot of servers here and several other locations, and I have yet to see any that have yum-utils installed until I manually install them.

Now I normally do a network install from a boot disk.   I generally select that I am installing a server, and then select to manually select packages based on this.   I then generally only add some packages that I know I will need.  I certainly have never that I have known of removed this package from the list to install, but yet it is never there until I install it.
Comment 3 seth vidal 2009-04-06 17:00:07 EDT
You have servers running Fedora or running rhel?
Comment 4 Ray Todd Stevens 2009-04-06 17:04:28 EDT
I have both.  Have not had an this as an issue one way or other with the RHEL servers.   So the comment here is about fedora.
Comment 5 James Antill 2009-04-06 17:10:17 EDT
 In theory we could lookup if yum-utils is installed, and print something if not. Or even just stat and then print something like: 

 "yum install /usr/sbin/yum-complete-transaction"

...or we could just require it (everyone loves circular deps ;). I have to admin, I'm tending towards not caring though ... esp. as it's only really a problem for RHEL-5 :o.
Comment 6 Ray Todd Stevens 2009-04-06 17:18:39 EDT
I would tend toward what I originally suggested.  Basically if any of these messages are printed out simply an added line that says "these utilities are round in the yum-utils rpm.   Anyone who is going to be able to use them probably could get there really fast with just that hint.
Comment 7 seth vidal 2009-04-06 17:20:44 EDT
Fair enough.

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